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scott
response 25 of 99: Mark Unseen   Nov 27 12:20 UTC 1997

I think that punk music sings against popular/mainstream culture.
orinoco
response 26 of 99: Mark Unseen   Nov 27 19:35 UTC 1997

The whole point of punk is to break away from the mainstream of musical
trends.  Punk tends to affect the mainstream by means of related styles, like
punk-pop or ska-core or what have you, but in the past when punk itself has
begun entering the mainstream, it's died back again pretty quickly.
krj
response 27 of 99: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 00:44 UTC 1997

Mmm, I thought the whole point of punk was the DIY ethic.
agent86
response 28 of 99: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 18:00 UTC 1997

finally someone mentioned diy :)
goose
response 29 of 99: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 20:03 UTC 1997

RE#22 -- Tim Yohannon is the editor-in-chief of the punk periodical
MaximumRockandRoll.  He is a loudmouthed jerk who through his strict editorial
control (of a supposedly free-thinking 'zine) seems to think he is the one
who decided what is "punk" and what is not "punk".  It was a little joke.
agent86
response 30 of 99: Mark Unseen   Nov 29 16:05 UTC 1997

Good lord. Punk has a periodical?
orinoco
response 31 of 99: Mark Unseen   Nov 29 21:21 UTC 1997

Doesn't everything?
agent86
response 32 of 99: Mark Unseen   Nov 30 07:50 UTC 1997

Well, yeah, now that you mention it, everything does. Hmmm.
I can think of at least three different criminal activities with magazines
devoted to them...
lumen
response 33 of 99: Mark Unseen   Nov 30 09:39 UTC 1997

Excuse me for being clueless, but what is DIY?
tpryan
response 34 of 99: Mark Unseen   Nov 30 15:32 UTC 1997

        I take it to mean Do It Yourself.
agent86
response 35 of 99: Mark Unseen   Nov 30 16:17 UTC 1997

Yeah, you take it right.
On chumbawamba: i just baught one of their CD's and actually listened to the
lyrics. I would say based on our  discriptions of 'punk' so far, it qualifies.
There older music (they have been around professionally since 1982) is *very*
punk... very anarchisitc, very diy.
orinoco
response 36 of 99: Mark Unseen   Nov 30 18:08 UTC 1997

I actually haven't heard any of their music, but from what I've heard and seen
of the lyrics they seem to be at least moderately anarchistic still.
goose
response 37 of 99: Mark Unseen   Nov 30 20:38 UTC 1997

Actually punk has several periodicals: MRR, Flipside, and Punk Planet are
three that are quite readily available nationally.  There are dozens of other
smaller publications, and thousands of 'zines dedicated to the ways and means
of that we have come to know as punk.
scott
response 38 of 99: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 17:24 UTC 1997

And there are also some stupid rivalries between those magazines, as I found
out from reading a couple issues of Punk Planet recently.  There are
fundamentalists in punk these days, just like in Christianity. 
orinoco
response 39 of 99: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 21:57 UTC 1997

Doth mine ears decieve me?  Fundamentalist Christian Punk?
robh
response 40 of 99: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 23:15 UTC 1997

Not Fundamentalist Christian Punk, just Fundamentalist Punk.
I.e. "so-and-so isn't REAL punk, but this other so-and-so is".
mcnally
response 41 of 99: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 04:24 UTC 1997

 you know, like "Thou shalt pretend to hate everything,"
 "Thou shalt not use more chords than the Sex Pistols," etc..
 Ironically, some punk fans seem to be more narrowminded than
 most about what music qualifies for their favorite genre..
orinoco
response 42 of 99: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 00:26 UTC 1997

Ah.  I get it now.
agent86
response 43 of 99: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 00:48 UTC 1997

re #41: pretty rediculous, huh? This is the "I will not like punk music if
it is liked by lots of people" crowd, i think.
diznave
response 44 of 99: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 18:34 UTC 1997

I like punk rock. I burn one on my porch every night to keep the bugs away.
orinoco
response 45 of 99: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 02:38 UTC 1997

Kind of like burning your guitar.  Only different.
goose
response 46 of 99: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 17:10 UTC 1997

There are however Christian Punks and Christian Punk bands and music.
teflon
response 47 of 99: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 20:57 UTC 1997

...no comment...
lumen
response 48 of 99: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 02:11 UTC 1997

hey-- it's kinda a shame good guys have to take on a bad boy image to let
their message continue to go through.
orinoco
response 49 of 99: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 21:23 UTC 1997

Do tell, goose - I'm intrigued.
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