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tpryan
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response 25 of 78:
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Jul 15 13:33 UTC 2001 |
Thanks for the explanation and the good work.
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janc
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response 26 of 78:
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Jul 15 20:07 UTC 2001 |
I should apologize for not giving advance notice of this kind of thing, but
basically my ability to spend 6 hour chunks of time in the pumpkin depends
on Arlo's sleep patterns and many other random variables, and I don't usually
know very far in advance when I am going to be able to do it.
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i
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response 27 of 78:
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Jul 15 21:32 UTC 2001 |
Thanks to the big new /bbs partition that janc has given us, i was able
to undo the kludge of splitting off & compressing the old agora20 through
agora29 conferences. (Done when we were running out of disk space back in
February.) All the old agoras are back in one piece on /bbs and it doesn't
look like anything got lost in the process.
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janc
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response 28 of 78:
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Jul 16 05:18 UTC 2001 |
I moved /var to a much bigger partition which will let us do some more
logging. I created a new partition for user space, called /d. I moved
several staff members who like to keep a lot of system stuff in their
directories (like STeve's vast collection of reap logs) to their own
partition, called /s, freeing up a mess more space for users.
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ball
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response 29 of 78:
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Jul 16 06:24 UTC 2001 |
Re #27 (sort of): keesan might know this one, I was too twp
to learn Latin at school. Is the plural of agora agorae?!
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orinoco
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response 30 of 78:
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Jul 16 07:37 UTC 2001 |
If it's the well-behaved first-declension noun that it looks like, then yes.
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aruba
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response 31 of 78:
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Jul 16 16:47 UTC 2001 |
I thought agora was greek.
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orinoco
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response 32 of 78:
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Jul 16 20:16 UTC 2001 |
D'oh. Yes, it is. Making the plural "agorai" (pronounced the same, spelled
differently).
Now nobody go and tell me that it's Sanskrit. At the rate I'm agreeing with
people, I just might believe you.
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remmers
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response 33 of 78:
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Jul 16 21:50 UTC 2001 |
"Agora" *is* the plural. The singular is "agorum".
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tpryan
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response 34 of 78:
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Jul 16 22:59 UTC 2001 |
How can one be in more than one agorum at a time?
Wouldn't then the collection of all agora*.cf s be the agora?
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gelinas
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response 35 of 78:
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Jul 17 02:44 UTC 2001 |
I don't think so, John. Last I heard, 'agora' was the marketplace, the town
square. Hmmm . . . the Great Scott is across the room. Why don't I go get
it . . . "agora" is singular, and means "assembly", later "marketplace":
tousin d' out' agorai boulephorai (roughly, "in the assembly of counselors"),
from the Odyssea, 9.112.
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brighn
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response 36 of 78:
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Jul 17 03:34 UTC 2001 |
While John may be incorrect (or joshin') in this case, a plural of a plural
is not unheard of. Given that "agora" does refer to a collective, it's
plausible that there's a singular which means whatever it is that's collected
in an agora.
I can't find anything that supports' John's comment, though, so I dunno.
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krj
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response 37 of 78:
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Jul 17 04:41 UTC 2001 |
All the stuff I have read (in English) on ancient Greece refers
to "agora" as a singular noun.
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remmers
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response 38 of 78:
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Jul 17 10:40 UTC 2001 |
Well then. Maybe I just made it up.
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brighn
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response 39 of 78:
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Jul 17 13:32 UTC 2001 |
That would be shocking. I've never known you to pull anyone's leg. You're
almost as straightforward as I am.
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janc
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response 40 of 78:
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Jul 17 16:14 UTC 2001 |
I tried doing some web research but didn't find anything conclusive. It is
Greek, not Latin and I'm about 80% convinced the plural is "agorai".
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janc
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response 41 of 78:
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Jul 17 16:16 UTC 2001 |
I upgraded Grex to the latest versions of Gnu 'bash' and 'grep'. The was
nothing particularly wrong with the old ones, but its been about four years
since we upgraded things, so I'm going to do a sweep through things looking
for stuff that is more seriously out of date.
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brighn
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response 42 of 78:
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Jul 17 17:32 UTC 2001 |
The plural of agora is agorai. Whether agora is in turn the plural of
something is irrelevant, since it's a collective, and collective nouns can
be plurals and have plurals in some languages.
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orinoco
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response 43 of 78:
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Jul 17 19:31 UTC 2001 |
(Witness the eternally obnoxious "person - persons - people - peoples".)
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gelinas
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response 44 of 78:
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Jul 17 20:37 UTC 2001 |
"Persons" are multiple individuals, acting singly or in concert. Just
about the only usage I know is in "murder most foul, done by person or
persons unknown."
"People" is like "fish": Britons are "people", while Britons and Germans
are "peoples". ("Money" behaves the same way.)
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valerie
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response 45 of 78:
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Jul 17 20:54 UTC 2001 |
This response has been erased.
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scott
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response 46 of 78:
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Jul 17 20:56 UTC 2001 |
Hmmmm... first Jan and now Valerie doing things. I'm afraid to ask where Arlo
is...
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brighn
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response 47 of 78:
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Jul 17 21:10 UTC 2001 |
#44> Ori's (and my) point holds, though, since "people" started as the plural
of "person." I was also thinking of "operas."
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ric
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response 48 of 78:
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Jul 17 21:57 UTC 2001 |
I had a bus driver when I was young (who I think might've been partially
retarded) who referred to us as "peoples"... as in "Quiet down peoples!"
The people of Great Britain and the people of Germany, though, in my opinion,
are the people of Great Britain and Germany.
I hate the word "peoples", even when it's used "properly"
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tpryan
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response 49 of 78:
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Jul 17 22:23 UTC 2001 |
The singular plural of fans is fen. As used in SF con context.
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