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rcurl
response 25 of 123: Mark Unseen   Apr 19 19:54 UTC 2001

My problem is that I could not find an easy way to inquire about
Grex, Grex memberships, and Grex dues, in agora. There should be
a file somewhere that can be called up by just typing any of
dues, member*, Grex, and maybe just help, at an Ok: prompt.

(help member and help membership, don't help either)
tpryan
response 26 of 123: Mark Unseen   Apr 19 21:30 UTC 2001

        I guess !support is not intuitive?
other
response 27 of 123: Mark Unseen   Apr 19 22:23 UTC 2001

Tim, it might not be, and aliasing the others to it wouldn't hurt.
aruba
response 28 of 123: Mark Unseen   Apr 19 23:09 UTC 2001

We could alias "member" and "membership" to !support.  Dunno about help -
That gives you Picospan help, and it may not be possible to edit that. 
Anyone know?
rcurl
response 29 of 123: Mark Unseen   Apr 20 05:49 UTC 2001

Funny thing is, I used to know !support was for Grex info, but had
completely forgotten it. Could it be enabled without the bang? I
notice several other common commands don't require the bang, and
the bang itself is not intuitive. 
aruba
response 30 of 123: Mark Unseen   Apr 20 13:47 UTC 2001

It is enabled without the bang.
wh
response 31 of 123: Mark Unseen   Apr 21 01:54 UTC 2001

I agree with aruba it would be a good idea to alias
member and membership. If someone has been on Grex 
for a few months and is curious, we want to catch
them the most likely places they might look for 
membership information.
cmcgee
response 32 of 123: Mark Unseen   Apr 23 20:54 UTC 2001

Dialins being real finicky.  3451 connects but doesnt give me "Welcome to 
Grex".  3554 rings 3 times and rolls over to a line that doesn't answer. 
3000 doesn't connect at all.  Finally got here via 5041

cmcgee
response 33 of 123: Mark Unseen   Apr 25 02:48 UTC 2001

Dialed every single number without being able to get one to answer and
connect.  Not even the pseudo connection with no welcome line.
albaugh
response 34 of 123: Mark Unseen   Apr 25 21:15 UTC 2001

grex.org and [grex.]cyberspace.org are all refusing telnet connections 
at this moment.  I'm obviously able to Backtalk instead...
goose
response 35 of 123: Mark Unseen   Apr 25 21:46 UTC 2001

I got one refusal from my desk in CA, and then I came in through my wccnet
account and it worked fine.
carson
response 36 of 123: Mark Unseen   Apr 25 22:26 UTC 2001

(Krj reports that inetd failed.  STeve kicked it, and it's working
OK now.  Grex was refusing telnet sessions, but accepted ssh.)
senna
response 37 of 123: Mark Unseen   Apr 25 23:35 UTC 2001

I've been having trouble with telnets all day.
keesan
response 38 of 123: Mark Unseen   Apr 25 23:37 UTC 2001

I got two 'NO CARRIER' about 20 minutes ago but now got through by dialin.
cmcgee
response 39 of 123: Mark Unseen   Apr 26 00:37 UTC 2001

Some of my inbound mail bounced today.
telnet
response 40 of 123: Mark Unseen   Apr 26 03:37 UTC 2001

Who invented telnet?  Or did it invent itself?
gelinas
response 41 of 123: Mark Unseen   Apr 26 04:56 UTC 2001

Here's a guess, from INDEX.rfc, which I obtained on August 24, 2000:

0097 First Cut at a Proposed Telnet Protocol. J.T. Melvin, R.W.
     Watson. Feb-15-1971. (Not online) (Status: UNKNOWN)
0137 Telnet Protocol - a proposed document. T.C. O'Sullivan.
     Apr-30-1971. (Not online) (Updated by RFC0139) (Status: UNKNOWN)
0139 Discussion of Telnet Protocol. T.C. O'Sullivan. May-07-1971. (Not
     online) (Updates RFC0137) (Updated by RFC0158) (Also RFC393) (Status:
     UNKNOWN)
0158 Telnet Protocol: A Proposed Document. T.C. O'Sullivan.
     May-19-1971. (Not online) (Obsoleted by RFC0495) (Updates RFC0139)
     (Updated by RFC0318) (Also RFC393) (Status: UNKNOWN)
0206 User Telnet - description of an initial implementation. J.E.
     White. Aug-09-1971. (Not online) (Status: UNKNOWN)
0215 NCP, ICP, and Telnet: The Terminal IMP implementation. A.M.
     McKenzie. Aug-30-1971. (Format: TXT=16645 bytes) (Status: UNKNOWN)
0318 Telnet Protocols. J. Postel. Apr-03-1972. (Format: TXT=34928
     bytes) (Updates RFC0158) (Updated by RFC0435) (Also RFC0139, RFC0158)
     (Status: UNKNOWN)
(And lots more)

Looking at a copy of INDEX.std, dated 3 Jun 1999, it seems the protocol
was finally standardised more than ten years later:

0008 Telnet Protocol. J. Postel, J. Reynolds. May 1983. (Format:
     TXT=44639 bytes) (Also RFC0854, RFC0855)

Note that the first group are RFCs, while the last is STD 0008.
russ
response 42 of 123: Mark Unseen   Apr 27 19:44 UTC 2001

I dialed in on -3000 and tried to download using sz.  I wound up
on the modem with defective flow control; the download went like
a bat out of hell for 4 blocks and then it froze.  When I dumped
out of rz I found I'd been disconnected.
russ
response 43 of 123: Mark Unseen   Apr 29 05:16 UTC 2001

Login      Name               TTY  Idle  Login Time   Location   Work Phone
mdw      Marcus D Watts       *u9    2d  Apr 12 16:29
newuser  The Newuser Program   p0   11d  Apr 17 13:10

... should be self-explanatory.
jep
response 44 of 123: Mark Unseen   May 6 21:40 UTC 2001

I can't log in through Backtalk, but can telnet in fine.
eeyore
response 45 of 123: Mark Unseen   May 7 11:21 UTC 2001

I have not been able to send mail for about 24 hours...it keeps coming up as
"Sending error 552: My skin is black upon me, and my bon"

Unfortunately, this is mail that I realy need to get out.  :(

Am I the only one with this issue?
i
response 46 of 123: Mark Unseen   May 8 16:09 UTC 2001

Peeking at www.imc.org/rfc2821 (which i'm pretty sure is the right place),
it looks like "552" means that "mail action aborted: exceeded storage
allocation".  I'd guess that the recipient's mailbox is full.
scg
response 47 of 123: Mark Unseen   May 8 19:59 UTC 2001

If I had to guess from the text, I'd say it's one of Marcus's anti-spam
defences.
gull
response 48 of 123: Mark Unseen   May 8 20:09 UTC 2001

I thought the anti-spam filters only affected incoming mail.
eeyore
response 49 of 123: Mark Unseen   May 8 23:32 UTC 2001

And it wasn't going to anybody on this system....
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