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senna
response 25 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 25 05:10 UTC 1998

My last two sessions have featured grex dropping massive amounts of text in
unprecedented fashion.  Alas, I believe that someone will actually have to
witness how bad it is to truly understand my difficulties.
rcurl
response 26 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 25 06:03 UTC 1998

Re Item #24: I recently encountered the problem with windows 3.1 (on
a lousy PC) that it will not pass several pine command codes but
instead interprets them as windows commands. Is this what you are
seeing? 
nestene
response 27 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 25 07:52 UTC 1998

Procmail appears to be broken.  If any of you are using procmail, have someone
send you a message to see if it bounces.  Procmail seems to expect your mailbox
to be in the old spot, and die horribly when it isn't.
mcnally
response 28 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 25 08:52 UTC 1998

  hence the message in the motd about having to change your procmail setup..

  I suspect that the suspicion on the parts of staff members was that anyone
  using procmail would probably be knowledgable enough to make the changes
  themselves but if you really need help I can probably provide it..
scott
response 29 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 25 12:08 UTC 1998

Senna, I can probably check out your problem sometime this weekend...
keesan
response 30 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 25 22:03 UTC 1998

re #26/24, I am using DOS, not Windows.  Still can't abort a MAIL message.
And Kermit is still taking about 25 sec to come up.
valerie
response 31 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 25 23:31 UTC 1998

This response has been erased.

jared
response 32 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 00:06 UTC 1998

kermit should use the "tty" program to determine your
tty, not who
orinoco
response 33 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 04:23 UTC 1998

When I'm in the 'mail' mailer and respond to a piece of mail I've gotten, a
copy of the response gets sent back to me, as well as to the indended
recipient.  (yes, I'm using 'r' and not 'R')  Any idea what's causing this?
srw
response 34 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 05:25 UTC 1998

I saw some mail on the staff mailing list that indicated that the extra 
mail problem was due to a global config file that had not been copied 
over during the changeover. If that is true, it should be fixed now. Is 
it?
davel
response 35 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 13:00 UTC 1998

Grace (gracel) reports that Grex hung on her yesterday, somewhere around
2 PM.  She read some conference items, ran elm, and went to email someone.
It took her into vi as usual.  She got into insert mode, & it stopped
responding.  She finally disconnected.  She says that she waited/tried
for maybe 5 minutes before giving up.  The session was still visible
when I looked at the screen last night; I can attest that there was
nothing like a timeout warning or anything like that, & she says it
was still connected until she disconnected.  She has vi configured so
that it displays the mode when you're in a text-entry mode, so she
is not likely to have been wrong about that.
davel
response 36 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 13:02 UTC 1998

Could someone please link this item to helpers?  I had to join agora just to
enter a system problem, & I prefer to maintain my non-involved status.
dang
response 37 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 17:57 UTC 1998

re kermit:  It can't use tty because the tty you're on has no corelation to
where you come in from.  kermit needs to know if you are in from groupie, or
if you're in over the link.  Tty can't tell it that.
steve
response 38 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 18:48 UTC 1998

   Dave, is there any chance that she hit ^S, such that things were waiting
for a ^Q?  In general its a good idea to try that when things appear dead.
keesan
response 39 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 19:06 UTC 1998

re #24 (?).  Kermit now comes up in 3 sec, and zmodem in about 2.
~x works to abort a response in MAIL.  Ctl-C still does not work there.
mdw
response 40 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 27 03:42 UTC 1998

Re #24 and #39 - mail does that because you told it to -- what
you report is *exactly* the purpose of the "set ignore" that you
have in .mailrc.
gibson
response 41 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 27 03:46 UTC 1998

        Sindi, did you run change and do your keys? I had to do that twice 
plus Valerie remembered an extra command that sometimes is needed. Valerie,
could that be her problem?
kaplan
response 42 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 27 04:23 UTC 1998

I've linked this from agora to helpers.
keesan
response 43 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 27 17:56 UTC 1998

If I recall correctly (and judging from traces of Valerie in my file)
I have copied Valerie's file in order not to get the long form of
where my mail messages were coming from.  In that file is the command
set ignore.  Valerie, would you try out mail and see if you also
cannot use Ctl-C to abort?  If you know the fix, let me know it, I am afraid
I cannot understand the previous two responses in full.  The Ctl-C command
worked until the new Sun changeover.  It works everywhere else.
keesan
response 44 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 28 01:00 UTC 1998

Putting a # in front of set ignore in .mailrc fixed the problem, I can now
do Ctl-C to abort a message using MAIL.
senna
response 45 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 28 04:07 UTC 1998

That would be extremely helpful, Scott, but I'm afraid my next two weekends
are absolutely jammed with theater work.  (This one included, that is)
remmers
response 46 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 28 13:00 UTC 1998

Re resp:44: The # turned the line into a comment. I imagine that
removing the "set ignore" line altogether would also have worked.
keesan
response 47 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 28 15:53 UTC 1998

According to Valerie's comments on set ignore, this was supposed to make the
system ignore line noise.  Before the changeover, Ctl-C was not interpreted
as line noise, now it seems to be.  Why?
mdw
response 48 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 28 20:45 UTC 1998

"mail" on the old & new systems is identical.  Both would treat "set
ignore" as meaning the same thing - to ignore the "interrupt" character.
dpc
response 49 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 00:14 UTC 1998

Valerie, if you still remember the commands that tell "mail" *not* to
display those huge mail-routing headers, could you post them in this
item?  Thanx!!
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