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25 new of 364 responses total.
danr
response 25 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 12:26 UTC 1997

I didn't like the white on blue at first, but now I've gotten used to it.
dang
response 26 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 16:11 UTC 1997

I always use a light color (yellow, gold, white, grey, green, etc) on a dark
color (dkblue, black, dkred, etc) for my text entry boxes.  By favorite color
combos are blue on black and gold on black.  I personally hate light
backgrounds with dark text.  So thanks, Valerie. :)
n8nxf
response 27 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 19:06 UTC 1997

I played with the color combinations on this term program.  I like light
blue on black.
dang
response 28 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 19:37 UTC 1997

That's my current favorite too.  I even set up my Win 95 colors with those.
valerie
response 29 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 20:22 UTC 1997

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remmers
response 30 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 00:12 UTC 1997

Re #26: How do you feel about reading books, magazines, and
newspapers?
n8nxf
response 31 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 11:36 UTC 1997

re #30:  Some reading disabilities / problems have been resolved simply
by placing a colored filter over black text on a white page.
remmers
response 32 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 12:40 UTC 1997

My point was the the whole print world is standardized on black
text on light (usually white or near-white) background.

Just had a look at agora in backtalk. I find it hard to read.
And aesthetically, those bright green buttons on a dark blue
background don't work at all.

My monitor settings: 16-bit color depth (i.e. "hicolor",
thousands of colors), 12-point courier font, approx 75 pixels
per inch.
dpc
response 33 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 13:39 UTC 1997

I'd really prefer that we stick to (near-)white background and black
text.  Anything else makes it likely that text-oriented types will
not want to read it.
toking
response 34 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 15:04 UTC 1997

I'm curious if there is any good reason why backtalk goes funky whenever
I hit the "NEXT CONF" button from agora.

It only seems to happen when there are no new responces in the rest of
my Conf's.
danr
response 35 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 20:13 UTC 1997

I use white text on a blue background when using my telnet client, and
it looks great. The difference is that the telnet client uses the Terminal
font while Backtalk uses the <pre> tag around responses, meaning
my browser displays the text in New Courier.  New Courier is much
less readable on a blue background.

I tried changing the fixed-width font to Terminal, but MSIE doesn't seem
to want to let me do that.
mag
response 36 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 22:21 UTC 1997

No matter which colour combinations BackTalk uses, not everyone will be
satisfied...so lets just pick a different colour for every season - like
Valerie hinted at.
coyote
response 37 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 23:06 UTC 1997

Hmmm... my computer uses white text on a blue background no matter what I tell
it to!  Silly Apple IIGS... :)
mag
response 38 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 23:51 UTC 1997

beat it up coyote:-)
scott
response 39 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 01:14 UTC 1997

 I, for one, like the current color combination.  Looks good both at 
home and at work.  
remmers
response 40 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 12:08 UTC 1997

My humble suggestion would be to not have Backtalk set colors.
That way, each user will get their own preferences.
srw
response 41 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 16:03 UTC 1997

Interesting suggestion. Personal choice of colors is possible at the 
browser level, but you can't color the buttons from there. At the 
server, though, backtalk could theoretically support individual color 
preferences, including button colors, but no one is working on that as 
an extension, nor are there immediate plans for that.

It was not my intention to highjack the system problems item to discuss 
backtalk colors. Obviously it is a matter of individual preference and 
we are seeing a lot of different preferences here.

Valerie please don't consider yourself beaten up over this. You changed 
the colors, but clearly would have been criticized by someone no matter 
what you had chosen. I'm glad you provided us with a topic for 
conversation.

I appear to be fully aligned with Remmers's thinking on this question.
The comment about the green buttons is very true, but at the same time 
totally unfair, because there are no buttons currently drawn in normal 
(unreversed) text. This conf could really use white buttons with dk blue 
lettering on it, in its current color configuration. 
valerie
response 42 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 22:15 UTC 1997

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senna
response 43 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 22:20 UTC 1997

The Backtalk interface worked fine for me when I used it breifly last night.
dang
response 44 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 22:47 UTC 1997

(printed text doesn't glow, like a monitor does, so it isn't as annoying to
the eyes.)
remmers
response 45 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 13:46 UTC 1997

(From this discussion, it's clear that color combinations that
work well for one person on one particular monitor may not work
well for another person using a different monitor. What's more,
fw's in general can't be expected to be knowledgable about issues
of readability.

So if fw's are going to be able to customize conference colors,
I think that users need to have a convenient way to turn the
customization off if it doesn't work well for them. How hard
would it be to build the equivalent of Picospan's "set nosource"
command into Backtalk, so that users could select an option that
says "don't use the fw's customizations"?)
coyote
response 46 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 16:35 UTC 1997

Actually, responses 37 and 38 led me to wonder if there *was* a way to change
the colors on my screen.  It turns out I can!  I can change the text color,
the background color, and the border color!  But now that I've discovered that
I can do that, I'm not sure what colors to pick, so it's still the same old
white on blue.  ;)
mag
response 47 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 23:12 UTC 1997

You folk are >real< picky...sheesh...it'c the content, not the presentation
which is important.  Unless you have a particular color blindness stop
complaining...just go blind for a day and you might realise how priveleged
you really are!
valerie
response 48 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 04:01 UTC 1997

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remmers
response 49 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 13:29 UTC 1997

The simplest fix would be for fw's not to set colors. Then each
user get his or her own preferences automatically. A
reasonable compromise would be for Backtalk to give users the
option of not using the fw's settings, much like Picospan's "set
nosource" command, as I suggested earlier.

Yes, I am particular about readability issues regarding text on
my screen, as I spend much of every day reading it. I make no
apology for this.
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