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dang
response 25 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 26 21:35 UTC 1996

David:  I would guess that your problem is that one of your breaks or some
other control code is getting prepended to your login. (You can't see control
codes.  They arn't displayed) So, I would suggest hitting enter at the first
login prompt, rather than entering the userid, and entering the userid at the
second prompt, and then coming back here and reporting the outcome.   I'd
guess that the problem is with your terminal's break, rather than Grex.
(Maybe... :)
mcpoz
response 26 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 01:06 UTC 1996

the problem is with Grex
steve
response 27 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 03:42 UTC 1996

   Dave, hit a bunch of backsapces before you first log in--that will
clear whatver cruft is in the input buffer, making it impossible for
you to first log in.
scg
response 28 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 04:43 UTC 1996

The problem that you're seeing here is that as your modem and Grex's modem
are negotiating the connection, some line noise gets passed along to Grex,
which Grex sees as the first part of what you type into athe login prompt.
It happens to me probably half the time when I use use the dial up modems
(which I don't do very often).
dpc
response 29 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 19:23 UTC 1996

OK, thanx!  I would never have thought of backspacing *before* logging
in...
        Also, about an hour ago I got a *new* error:  Grex took
my loginid, but when I hit a <return> to bring up the password
prompt, Grex hung and I hung up.
        BTW, why don't I get similar line-noise-prepending with
M-Net?
dpc
response 30 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 01:43 UTC 1996

I am having a problem with "ping".  Sometimes I can ping from
Grex by typing "!ping blahblah" and everything is fine.  At other
times (such as a few minutes ago), I am curtly informed
Can't execute "ping"!  What's the story here?  Is ping being
permitted and de-permitted at pseudo-random?  
dang
response 31 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 03:22 UTC 1996

Or you're getting added/removed to/from the internet group at pseudo-random...
dang
response 32 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 03:23 UTC 1996

Soryy, my smily ( :)  ) was on a new line, and so got interpreted as a
command, and I'd already sent an EOF... Consider the previous response
smilied.
remmers
response 33 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 12:21 UTC 1996

-r-sr-x---    1 woot     staff       24576 Apr 17  1996  /usr/local/bin/ping

Hmm... Looks like ping is permitted only to root & staff. (I forget
why we did that.) If Dave was able to execute it recently, it must
have been changed recently. Dunno why.
rcurl
response 34 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 18:43 UTC 1996

I'm telnetting to Grex from ITD (UM) via Compuserve from Florida. I get
full vt100 emulation on ITD, but no reverse video or arrow keys here. I
also cannot connect directly to Grex via Compuserve. 
dang
response 35 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 19:33 UTC 1996

I'm also telnetted from ITD at this moment (via dialup to UM) and everything
is fine for me.  Merely data.
ajax
response 36 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 20:42 UTC 1996

Someone entered an item in coop saying that ttyh4 was consistently giving him
upper case mode.  It will probably be discussed more there, but I figured I'd
mention it, for people who read system problems but not co-oop.
srw
response 37 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 22:06 UTC 1996

Rane's problems undoubtedly started with his compuserve telnet client, not
anything at ITD. Telnet propagates your terminal type to each system. If it
is not good to start with, it can be a problem. I wonder what terminal type
ITD thinks you have when you telnet into there from Compuserve, Rane.
popcorn
response 38 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 00:17 UTC 1996

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rcurl
response 39 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 16:56 UTC 1996

It turns out ITD doesn't know my terminal type wither...its a Compuserve
shortcoming. I am not using their latest software. I guess I will just have
to deal with having no working arrow keys.
dang
response 40 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 16:58 UTC 1996

I sing the glories of vi, I sing!  (Who needs arrow keys anyway?  Bloody
inconvenient things, I always say. :)
popcorn
response 41 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 17:10 UTC 1996

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remmers
response 42 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 20:04 UTC 1996

Re #41: Nope, you don't need terminal emulation to use vi. When
run in 'open' mode you can even use it on hardcopy terminals.
rlawson
response 43 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 23:31 UTC 1996

I am having an irractic problem with menumore ... it seems to be skipping an
awful lot of text. This has happened the past 4 times I have logged on, so
I doubt it is a problem with any one modem and, though I can't be sure, but
this has happened on two different terminals so I don';t think it's anything
I've done or am doing. Help!
popcorn
response 44 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 06:29 UTC 1996

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eskarina
response 45 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 01:49 UTC 1996

Excuse my ignorance, but what is ping?
dang
response 46 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 03:42 UTC 1996

Ping is a program on most internet connected computers that takes as an
argument the address (either domain or IP) of a system, and sends that system
packets of data, to which that system is supposed to respond.  That way, you
can know if a remote system (or your connection to the internet) is up and
responding to incoming internet.  Make sense?
arthurp
response 47 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 03:42 UTC 1996

It's a sonar like method for probing the depths of a distributed TCP/IP
network.  (You ping copmuters to see if they are alive, and how "far away"
they are in milliseconds.)
wolfg676
response 48 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 07:35 UTC 1996

Then you shout, "Damn the torpedoes, ramming speed!!", and attempt to shove
a 2.3MB Mpeg through a 14.4 at T-1 speeds. 
ryan1
response 49 of 274: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 15:48 UTC 1996

(In other words, tell ping to increase the the packet size a lot, and 
aim them at a slower machine/person on the internet.)  This is really a 
problem for a lot of people on irc, and I wish there was a way to trace 
ICMP packets (as well as everything else that goes on over a network) in 
Windows 95.... Sigh--Win95's DUN doesn't use raw sockets, so I don't 
even think it is possible.
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