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25 new of 405 responses total.
gelinas
response 25 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 3 04:19 UTC 2004

FWIW, I've seen packets dropped between the ISP and grex every time I
traced the route this evening.  Sometimes, it's only one hop's worth, but
it's sometimes been more.
tsty
response 26 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 4 10:46 UTC 2004

weirdness on disconnects:
  

tsty      ttyp6    pcp05308905pcs.w Sat Apr  3 01:25 - 02:04  (00:38)
tsty      ttypa    pcp05308905pcs.w Sat Apr  3 01:46 - 02:21  (00:34)
tsty      ttypb    pcp05308905pcs.w Sat Apr  3 02:03 - 02:23  (00:20)
tsty      ttyp5    pcp05308905pcs.w Sat Apr  3 02:04   still logged in
tsty      ttyp3    pcp05308905pcs.w Sat Apr  3 02:45   still logged in
tsty      ttyp9    pcp05308905pcs.w Sat Apr  3 02:47   still logged in


didn't matter if party/mail/bbs  fwiw.
  
tsty
response 27 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 4 10:56 UTC 2004

more weirdness
 
User     tty       login@  idle   JCPU   PCPU  what
tsty     ttyp1     6:52am           10      4  w
tsty     ttyp2     6:20am     3     21     10  bbs

  
the bbs w/idle created resp #26 .. teh connectin froze
  
this response is from ttyp1 .... grex took anoher login but the
first connectin is still frizzed!
  
  and now
  
> w |grep ts
tsty     ttyp1     6:52am           19      9  grep ts
tsty     ttyp2     6:20am     6     21     10  bbs
>
   
something weird ... did't even get 'y9ou are logged on twice' notice.
  
tsty
response 28 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 4 11:32 UTC 2004

same shit; same day!
  
tsty     ttyp1     6:52am     3     47     20  more
tsty     ttyr1     7:30am            6      2  grep ts

  
ssh relogin timed out twice this time. now i'n straight telnet.
tsty
response 29 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 4 11:54 UTC 2004

although the formatting is messed, here is tracert:
  
seems hop 16 might have a problem
  
04/04/04 07:42:24 Fast traceroute 216.93.104.34
Trace 216.93.104.34 ...

 1   No Response      *      *      *                 

 2 68.87.61.13      11ms   16ms   10ms  TTL:  0 
 (ge-2-1-ur01.annarborwest.mi.mich.comcast.net ok)

 3 68.87.60.130     10ms   13ms   11ms  TTL:  0 
 (srp-0-0-ur01.pontiac.mi.mich.comcast.net ok)

 4 12.119.243.105   16ms   18ms   12ms  TTL:  0  (No rDNS)

 5 12.123.139.34    12ms   11ms   13ms  TTL:  0  (gbr2-p30.dtrmi.ip.att.net
 probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)

 6 12.122.12.181    12ms   17ms   13ms  TTL:  0  (tbr2-p012601.dtrmi.ip.att.net
 probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)

 7 12.122.10.134    26ms   26ms   20ms  TTL:  0  (tbr2-cl1.cgcil.ip.att.net
 probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)

 8 12.123.6.69      20ms   21ms   19ms  TTL:  0  (ggr2-p3120.cgcil.ip.att.net
 probable bogus rDNS: No DNS)

 9 208.175.10.93    21ms   26ms   20ms  TTL:  0 
 (dcr1-so-3-3-0.Chicago.savvis.net ok)

10 208.175.10.50    20ms   20ms   19ms  TTL:  0 
(agr1-so-0-0-0.Chicago.savvis.net ok)

11 208.172.2.24     25ms   23ms   20ms  TTL:  0 
(bar16-loopback.Chicago.savvis.net ok)

12 208.172.8.206    35ms   41ms   34ms  TTL:  0  (voyagernet.Chicago.savvis.net
ok)

13 209.153.129.86   36ms   37ms   37ms  TTL:  0 
(se3-0.rtr0.flnt.mi.voyager.net ok)

14 209.153.142.3    37ms   38ms   39ms  TTL:  0 
(fe0-0.rtr1.flnt.mi.voyager.net ok)

15 216.93.15.210    36ms   39ms   36ms  TTL:  0  (rback0.flnt.mi.voyager.net
ok)

16   No Response      *      *      *                 

17 216.93.104.34    60ms   61ms  218ms  TTL:241  (grex.cyberspace.org ok)

                                                      
ohhh, yes, ANother damn freeze & ssh timeout & telnet login.
fitz
response 30 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 4 17:13 UTC 2004

I didn't get a disconnect from my telnet session!  (So, there's no problem
anymore, I guess.)
soup
response 31 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 4 17:49 UTC 2004

This response has been erased.

happyboy
response 32 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 4 18:39 UTC 2004

same here.
russ
response 33 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 03:19 UTC 2004

Not only is telnet down, but attempting to telnet to grex immediately
kills one's ssh session!
gelinas
response 34 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 03:31 UTC 2004

Not for me:  Two ssh and one telnet session open simultaneously, and all
working.
keesan
response 35 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 05:00 UTC 2004

I still frequently get things locked up for about a minute (for the past week
or so) as does Jim, when dialed in or telnetted.  And my mail logfile records
locks of some sort.
gull
response 36 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 16:25 UTC 2004

ssh seems to be a *lot* more sensitive to network interruptions than
telnet.  I'm not sure why.
keesan
response 37 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 17:16 UTC 2004

I just got locked up twice in 5 minutes while telnetted - reading mail, and
reading bbs.  Quicker to close the connection and telnet back than to wait
the minute for it to unlock.  
mdw
response 38 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 18:31 UTC 2004

sshd sets SO_KEEPALIVE.  Telnet does not.
gull
response 39 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 22:15 UTC 2004

Ah.  That would do it.
aruba
response 40 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 8 15:41 UTC 2004

I got bumped off twice last night.  Is this a problem with our ISP, or with
something on Grex?
fitz
response 41 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 8 15:46 UTC 2004

likewise.  It's those droppable packets, right?
scott
response 42 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 8 17:04 UTC 2004

I haven't been dropped from my Grex connection, despite using ssh, but I have
been noticing occasional freezes which can last for several minutes.
gelinas
response 43 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 8 18:06 UTC 2004

I occassionally run traceroute to grex; I often notice packets being dropped
between our ISP and grex.  I have not figured out why.  The load on grex
has not been unreasonable.  Someone probably needs to spend some time in the
Pumpkin to track down the problem.
krj
response 44 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 9 19:29 UTC 2004

Sometimes, if I wait long enough, my "stuck" Grex connection comes
back to life.  Problem is persisting.
aruba
response 45 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 04:37 UTC 2004

I got bumped a couple more times tonight, after only being on a minute or so
each time.  I gave up and dialed in, and haven't had a problem.
charcat
response 46 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 11 04:22 UTC 2004

same here.
krj
response 47 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 11 08:20 UTC 2004

Telnetting in, since about 0300, I have had maybe six connection 
lockups/drops.
jor
response 48 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 11 13:48 UTC 2004

        maybe the stone rolled over some fiber optic

cmcgee
response 49 of 405: Mark Unseen   Apr 11 15:02 UTC 2004

I've consistently had to telnet in 3 or 4 times to finish a session. 
Responding to email and to BBS takes longer than my telnet connection will
last.
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