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aruba
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response 25 of 170:
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Jan 7 21:42 UTC 2004 |
Well, I agree much is in the attitude. But I also think there are
consequences for being an asshole on Grex.
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mary
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response 26 of 170:
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Jan 7 21:56 UTC 2004 |
I know where you're coming from Mark, but this one isn't about
assholes. It's going to be a needed discussion where we fine
tune our feelings about ownership and censorship. Grex staff
shouldn't feel threatened.
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willcome
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response 27 of 170:
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Jan 7 22:04 UTC 2004 |
I wonder why gelinas (Joe. Joe Gelinas.) thought there was a long standing
rule allowing folks to delete their items after other folk had posted to them.
Surely, if that were the case, Valerie wouldn't have E-mailed both the staff
and the board about it.
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naftee
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response 28 of 170:
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Jan 7 22:26 UTC 2004 |
re 23 Hey, dude, you're the one who started swearing here.
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jmsaul
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response 29 of 170:
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Jan 7 22:51 UTC 2004 |
Re #27: Probably because he's never tried it. Few people have.
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willcome
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response 30 of 170:
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Jan 7 22:55 UTC 2004 |
You don't think a mail to staff and board would indicate that, at very least,
it was something unusual?
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naftee
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response 31 of 170:
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Jan 7 23:14 UTC 2004 |
Or the fact that the items simply dissapeared, without mention? Without even
the fairwitnesses of the conference knowing about their removal?
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mta
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response 32 of 170:
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Jan 8 01:35 UTC 2004 |
who says the FW didn't know?
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naftee
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response 33 of 170:
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Jan 8 02:41 UTC 2004 |
Oh, so you kept it secret too? Immediately before I posted item 68 in coop
I posted a response in the femme conference asking what happened to certain
items (they were former baby conference items). So far, there's been no
response. So either you don't read anything in the conference you're supposed
to be responsible for, or you were deliberately trying to protect valerie from
her actions which you knew were wrong.
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cmcgee
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response 34 of 170:
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Jan 8 03:14 UTC 2004 |
Pfft, maybe she was just ignoring you.
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russ
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response 35 of 170:
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Jan 8 04:08 UTC 2004 |
Re #21: That pretty much summarizes what happened to M-Net.
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gelinas
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response 36 of 170:
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Jan 8 05:13 UTC 2004 |
Re second paragraph of 12: That's why I said "From the account that
originally created the item." One of the odd things about unix systems is
that login ids get re-used. If I let "gelinas" get deleted, anyone can
claim it. And no one can prove, definitively, that the new "jgelinas"
is the old "gelinas." All protestions from "jgelinas" to the contrary.
So no, a request from "polytarp" to delete responses by "dah" should NOT
be honoured.
News flash, mynxcat: YOU are one of the annoying ones. YOU are part of
the problem. I invite you to re-read this conference, concentrating on
the responses from "mynxcat" and consider them as a third person. *JUST*
this conference; no need to torture yourself with your reponses in agora,
present or past, nor international.
Part of the function of the staff conference is to report _any_ use of
root privilegs. Allow me to repeat that: *any* use of root privileges.
So Valerie's report in the staff conference was routine, nothing out of
the out of the ordinary.
I think I have tried to use the "kill" command, and failed. I chalked
it up as an error in implementation and went on with my life.
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richard
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response 37 of 170:
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Jan 8 05:28 UTC 2004 |
I don't think grex staff should be going into individual items and deleting
one user's posts. If polytarp wants to do that, he scan go scribble them out
one by one. Otherwise each item exists as a whole, as part of the grex
collective, and for historical reasons should not be altered. Grex should
want its old conferences and the items in those conferences to be preserved
as they are so down the road they can be read as they are, not modified just
because somebody isn't comfortable with what they've said.
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gelinas
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response 38 of 170:
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Jan 8 05:33 UTC 2004 |
(This from someone who regularly argues for the wholesale deletion of
conferences? Interesting.)
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cross
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response 39 of 170:
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Jan 8 06:02 UTC 2004 |
Regarding #36; I disagree, Joe; I think Sapna has said some very insightful
things.
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willcome
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response 40 of 170:
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Jan 8 06:06 UTC 2004 |
If Grex doesn't allow me to delete my copyrighted works, I will look into
legal action.
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gelinas
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response 41 of 170:
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Jan 8 06:18 UTC 2004 |
Sure she has, some of them in this and the previous item. I stand by my
comment. And invitation.
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richard
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response 42 of 170:
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Jan 8 06:50 UTC 2004 |
polytarp, you can scribble anything you posted on grex
gelinas, I have argued for archiving dead confs and closing them. Not
deleting them outright. I don't think dead confs and live confs should be
listed together, because new users see dead confs and they think the whole
of grex is dead.
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triluda
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response 43 of 170:
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Jan 8 07:26 UTC 2004 |
how jp-ish
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willcome
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response 44 of 170:
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Jan 8 07:42 UTC 2004 |
Re. 42: I can't.
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sholmes
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response 45 of 170:
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Jan 8 08:48 UTC 2004 |
Regarding _this item. Staff are voluntary , they will delete attheir
convenience and when they have time , they may not if they don't feel like
it.
Second this item is now irrelevant as valerie (ref item #71) has written
/a/p/o/popcorn/scribble which let's you do that by yourself.
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willcome
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response 46 of 170:
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Jan 8 09:18 UTC 2004 |
It doesn't. That only lets you scribble things, not delete items. As well,
it won't let me scribble things entered by accounts I remade, such as
polytarp.
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bhoward
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response 47 of 170:
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Jan 8 09:23 UTC 2004 |
Must be tough.
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mynxcat
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response 48 of 170:
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Jan 8 14:04 UTC 2004 |
I've taken you up on your invitation, gelinas. Personally, I don't see
anything I've said that can be construed as "annoying". Am I annoying because
I don't agree with you? Or because I believe for once the canadian posse is
right, and that affronts you.
It was never my intenstion to annoy.Believe it or not, I really care about
Grex. I've bneen on and off since 1997, and I've been on regularly since March
of 2002. I've met some really nice people here, I like the discussions and
I don't want to see this turn into a place where complete items are removed,
losing a lot of the valuable discussion we have on here.
Joe, you've proven what I've suspected all along, but hoped wasn't true.
I'd like all the items I've ever entered removed, and once I'm done I'd like
my user-id deleted.
Thanks for the good times.
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jp2
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response 49 of 170:
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Jan 8 14:13 UTC 2004 |
This response has been erased.
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