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valerie
response 25 of 137: Mark Unseen   Sep 24 01:02 UTC 1997

("Natalie Drest"?)
bruin
response 26 of 137: Mark Unseen   Sep 24 12:54 UTC 1997

I believe I remember "Natalie Drest" as one of the people in the closing
credits of "A Prairie Home Companion."
tao
response 27 of 137: Mark Unseen   Sep 24 15:25 UTC 1997

(Um, yeah. Along with Norman Conquest, Immanuel Transmission, etc)
dpc
response 28 of 137: Mark Unseen   Sep 24 15:37 UTC 1997

When the ice thaws next spring sounds like a good goal to me.
No, of course I don't want my money back!   8-)
arthurp
response 29 of 137: Mark Unseen   Sep 25 00:19 UTC 1997

Thank you staff for all the work and frustration you have endured on the 670.
I've been following the progress and sympathyzing.  If I knew anything about
SunOS I'd offer to help, but I'd be a hinderance on this one.
mta
response 30 of 137: Mark Unseen   Sep 25 15:15 UTC 1997

The only "help" I can offer is moral support, pop, and cookies.
Let me know about the next group work session and I'll be there with 
baked goods!
steve
response 31 of 137: Mark Unseen   Sep 25 21:33 UTC 1997

   Now, thats a thought...
other
response 32 of 137: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 07:53 UTC 1997

out of curiosity, can we get an update on the upgrade progrees?
thanks.
janc
response 33 of 137: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 17:17 UTC 1997

Next step is to install SunOS on the machine.  We are currently running an
old version of SunOS on Grach, and we can't copy over the version from Grex
because the software for multiprocessor architectures is slightly different.
So we have to do a fresh installation from the CD.  We have two CDs.  One is
the SunOS 4.1.3_U1 version that we are running here.  Greg has it, but can't
find it, and doesn't think it includes the multiprocessor stuff anyway.  The
other is a SunOS 4.1.4 CD that Jared donated.  STeve has it, it's in his car,
but it hasn't made it to the pumpkin in the last few weeks.  When and if a
installation disk appears, someone will have to actually do the install and
copy over Grex's software.  Odds are, this is me.  I expect to be able to
do most of it in a solid days work, though there are a few sticky issues with
libc that may take a bit longer to figure out.  After that, it will mostly
be a question of doing a good security sweep of the system.
janc
response 34 of 137: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 20:12 UTC 1997

STeve got the CD to me after the board meeting last night.  I've done the base
install, and will be doing the Sun patches, then the Grex mods soon.
tsty
response 35 of 137: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 04:13 UTC 1997

yippiyyippiyyippiy-o-day!
valerie
response 36 of 137: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 15:13 UTC 1997

Yay Jan!  Cool beans!
dpc
response 37 of 137: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 18:02 UTC 1997

Great!!
janc
response 38 of 137: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 21:59 UTC 1997

I think I've completed the first pass of software installation on the 4/670.
Nearly all of Grex's custom software has been copied over and installed.
We still need to do our kernal modifications and a whole lot of testing.
srw
response 39 of 137: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 22:31 UTC 1997

I spent Sunday afternoon working on the kernel configuration for the 
4.1.4 kernel to meet Grex's specific needs, and working on the 
installation of the kernel blocks. This is complete now, and the machine 
has been rebooted to run on the new kernel but there are still a number 
of other things to take care of before we can begin the final testing 
and security checks. We have to figure out where to put the mail spool 
for one thing. 

This was definitely a good weekend for progress on the 670. I'm not at 
all sure how long the remaining work will take.
janc
response 40 of 137: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 22:35 UTC 1997

Steve Weiss has rebuilt the 670's kernel, so it now has all the latest Grex
mods.

What's basically left to do now is a variety of minor software work (like the
latest version of Backtalk isn't there yet), a lot of testing to make sure
that all the programs work OK, and some double-checking to ensure that all
our security is correctly installed.

Then we have to generate our change-over plan.  A lot of things on Grex are
continously changing, so they cannot be moved to the new system until we
actually make the change.  To make sure we get it all, we need to make a plan.
remmers
response 41 of 137: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 02:25 UTC 1997

I suggest that the move not take place during the board election
(i.e. December 1-15).
tsty
response 42 of 137: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 00:14 UTC 1997

fine suggetion, agreed.
lilmo
response 43 of 137: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 23:08 UTC 1997

I presume Grex will have to be shut down during the actual changeover?
valerie
response 44 of 137: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 23:14 UTC 1997

Yes, probably for between half a day and a full day.
janc
response 45 of 137: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 00:15 UTC 1997

I'm not exactly sure why doing the change-over during the election period
would be a problem.  As long as we move over the vote directory, it should
not interfere with the election.
mary
response 46 of 137: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 00:55 UTC 1997

If all goes well.  Is there any chance at all that changing 
over could result in Grex being unavailable for a couple days
or longer?  It would be nice if the vote could come off, as
planned, without the need for extensions and added confusion
as to deadlines.
valerie
response 47 of 137: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 15:30 UTC 1997

Ya, I'd rather not do the changeover during the voting period.
janc
response 48 of 137: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 16:22 UTC 1997

I think the chances of that are small.  We aren't erasing the old system
when we bring up the new system.  If there are any snags in bringing up the
new system, we can always fall back to the old system.  This assumes that
we don't screw up badly enough to leave both systems un-workable.  This is
possible, of course, but pretty unlikely.
remmers
response 49 of 137: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 17:47 UTC 1997

If the new system is up for a little while, some people cast
votes, and then we have to go back to the old system because of
some unforseen problem, the votes that were cast on the new
system could get lost. Unlikely perhaps, but possible.
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