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25 new of 203 responses total.
steve
response 25 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 05:30 UTC 1997

   Ha!  Another pledge snuck in as I was typing #24.  $380, which
is almost half way there.
scg
response 26 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 05:51 UTC 1997

re 17:
        Jan, the $80 that you missed was from me and whoever the third person
who threw in $40 at the board meeting was (Misti?).
senna
response 27 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 06:13 UTC 1997

Not bad.  lets see if we can't get some pledges from people who normally
aren't bumming around cfs?
aruba
response 28 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 06:33 UTC 1997

Re #17,26:  Steve's right, you missed $40 from mta and $40 from scg.

Re #22:  Jared, there is a clear difference between packet-sniffing at your
job and packet-sniffing at home: one can get you fired, the other cannot.
In other words, if you or Dorian or some other employee of ICNET or
CICNET were to do something unethical using the resources of your employer,
we would have some recourse - we could tell your employer about it.  With
this new situation we are getting into, there is no such recourse.

I'm not in the least suggesting that I expect either of you to do anything
unethical.  I just don't think it was unreasonable to bring the matter up.

I still would like to know a little more about why Dorian is so well
connected.  Is there a good reason why the connection "won't be going away
any time soon"?
janc
response 29 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 12:15 UTC 1997

Oops, I thought that $120 raised at the board meeting was toward the phone
installation charges, but it makes more sense for them to be applied to the
ISDN modems.

OK, so we now have:

janc    $50
aruba   $40
toking  $20
tao     $20
dang    $20
krj     $50
steve   $40
giry    $20
polygon $30
srw     $50
mta     $40
scg     $40
================
       $460

Please, if you can't afford $20, feel free to donate $5 or whatever you can
afford.
bruin
response 30 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 13:48 UTC 1997

I'll pledge $10.00, and include it with the $6.00 I pay for monthly dues 
come August 1.
signet
response 31 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 13:54 UTC 1997

i pledge $20 and good luck. so far so good!
grexer
response 32 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 14:25 UTC 1997

Ok, I dont know how i got involved in this, but ethics suggest that since I
am a heavy user here I should chip in.  I will put $50 in the coffer .... 
Kshitish (Tish)
grexer
response 33 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 14:27 UTC 1997

Hey incidentally I think the questions being raised are quite valid..
its never too bad to be cautious in this world!!!
  -Tish
nt
response 34 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 15:04 UTC 1997

I got a mail from faster@cyberspace.org saying that I'm a heavier user
of GREX :( 

Are you sending mails to everyone or just heavy users :)

*singing* *ghar se nikhalthe he kuch dhoor chalthe he raste mein hai uska
ghar*

I pledge $100.
nt
response 35 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 15:05 UTC 1997

I'm trying to convince more Indians from party..well should see the luck :)
irvingp
response 36 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 16:47 UTC 1997

hell, *sighs*  ill throw in 20. do i get membership with that?
ungrez
response 37 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 17:08 UTC 1997

alright i pledge a 100 dollars...but tell me how to send it from india
i could send you a cheque for the amount in rupeees will that do..tell me 
all the best for the venture..:)
richard
response 38 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 18:13 UTC 1997

better send those rupees in cash...a foriegn check would be hard to
cash.  Wonder what the exchange rate for rupees/dollars is?
aruba
response 39 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 18:30 UTC 1997

Re #37,38:  Richard's right, Mikal, the bank tells me that a check in rupees
cannot be easily cashed.  nt has a method for getting money out of India -
Sri, can you help Mikal out?
jared
response 40 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 19:19 UTC 1997

re 28
        1) to say the least, neither of us are interested in grex at all,
if you're worried bout us sniffing, you need to worry about every other
backbone operator

        2) as for connected, dorians cicnet t1 is staying there, and he's
getting another t1 from digex, and possibly one from his next employer..
we're both addicted, and the connection will be able to be at either
my place or his, and you should get decent connectivity.

        If you run into problems, I can talk to a few folks on your behalf 
also here at iagnet.net, branch, icnet, etc.. and get you a deal from
them, or someone else.  It's not that much of a problem.

        and as for the passwords, that's why you should use ssh instead of 
telnet, check out http://www.ssh.fi/
senna
response 41 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 19:34 UTC 1997

Thanks for the large donations from ungrez and nt... thanks for doing the
legwork, nt.

I might have some money left over, but I won't be sure till I get my paycheck.
nt
response 42 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 19:40 UTC 1997

Richard, I think 1$ = 35.65 Rupees.
As Richard said if there is a way that GREX could convert Rupees into dollars
its fine "ungrez" can send the cash thru registered post.
Mark A Conger, Contact "State Bank of India" in NewYork.. I guess they will
take Indian rupees and will give you USD.
If nothing works then I will take care of this.
richard
response 43 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 21:36 UTC 1997

Of ocurse, if Grex is suddenly that much faster, 
word will get out and a *lot* more
people will come here for email and such and grex could get
swamped...thereby slowing things down again and defeating
the purpose of a faster connection.  It is just a question of
whether the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.  Is a faster
connection worrth increased demand for services like email?
mta
response 44 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 21:50 UTC 1997

I'm pretty sure I heard some staff talk about a way to deal with 
maintaining the speed of GREX while dealing with new mail demands.  
Something about putting mail on a separate machine so that mail can get 
swamped all by it's little lonesome and the rest of the system would be 
minimally effected.

How far off is that possibility, folks?
steve
response 45 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 22:00 UTC 1997

   Not that far--I need to enter an item in the Garage conference about
it.
   Back to the fund raiser...
headdoc
response 46 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 22:30 UTC 1997

I'm in for $20.
toking
response 47 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 22:39 UTC 1997

anyone got a tab on th total, so far? <just curious>
bjorn
response 48 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 23:48 UTC 1997

Because of finincial discrepancies which are entirely the bank's fault, I'm
not sure what I can pledge yet because I'd like to know what the Hel is going
on with my money.
(Norwest in Minnesota *not* Great Lakes here)
mta
response 49 of 203: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 23:57 UTC 1997

I'm in for another $20.  (I too though that I had donated to the phone 
lines so this was budgeted.) 
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