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kentn
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response 25 of 57:
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Dec 14 05:38 UTC 2011 |
Are you running for the Board, Rane? Thanks, we'll put you down for it.
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bellstar
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response 26 of 57:
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Dec 14 07:04 UTC 2011 |
On an off note, thanks to whoever did it for fixing cyberspace.org's SSL
certificate. It seems tonster took it upon himself to have a new certificate
issued to cyberspace.org under his name. Thanks to him, too.
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mary
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response 27 of 57:
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Dec 14 16:05 UTC 2011 |
Re: #24 The title should probably be "dissolution" but here is what's
stated in our bylaws. State law may have some say that would fine tune
the procedure some.
ARTICLE 8: DISSOLVEMENT
In the event the membership is unable to support Cyberspace
Communications, all property belonging to the club shall be
sold. The remaining cash assets, after paying final bills, shall
be donated to a charitable organization, as determined by the
BOD. All elected officers shall then be released from their
obligations and the corporation dissolved.
Thanks, Andy! Woot!
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richard
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response 28 of 57:
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Dec 14 17:09 UTC 2011 |
re #27 If grex was required to sell its box, couldn't it continue
hosted somewhere as a virtual conferencing system? If we just want the
conferences, and there's no further need for a corporation, why not go
in that direction?
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tonster
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response 29 of 57:
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Dec 14 18:55 UTC 2011 |
resp:26: You're welcome. Unfortunately, I didn't have a choice with the
provider of the ssl certificates on whose name to put there, so that's
how it shows. It works though, and I don't see a problem with it.
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rcurl
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response 30 of 57:
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Dec 14 19:22 UTC 2011 |
Re #25: No, I did that, and found my approach to non-profit corporate
management was incompatible with the established ethos. I'm a Roberts Rulian.
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jep
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response 31 of 57:
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Dec 14 21:18 UTC 2011 |
re resp:28: The name 'Grex' has always been presumed to be worth more than
the hardware. That is, after all, why the users paid for the hardware.
The name itself is an asset, and I'd think it would have to be sold just
like anything else. Maybe an enterprising or public-spirited person would
buy the name and continue to offer Grex as a private system, or maybe it
could be donated to another non-profit if Grex were to disband.
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mary
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response 32 of 57:
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Dec 14 21:23 UTC 2011 |
Do you really mean "Grex" or our domain, cyberspace.org. If the
organization revoked its 501(c)3 status and wanted to continue using that
domain, it gets muddy. The domain is worth money. The cleanest way to
do it would be to sell the domain and give that money to another non-
profit. We could make a case for keeping the domain as we had it before
we gained non-profit status. But I don't see "Grex", the name, as having
any value at all.
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ball
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response 33 of 57:
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Dec 14 23:44 UTC 2011 |
It has great intangible value to some of us. :-)
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ryan
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response 34 of 57:
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Dec 15 04:44 UTC 2011 |
If there are ever sufficient people running for the board without me running,
then I would withdraw my bid for it ;) I don't think I'm the best person
for it, but I will do it if absolutely needed, and nobody else is willing.
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mary
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response 35 of 57:
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Dec 15 13:27 UTC 2011 |
I think there are probably a number of non-local people out there who
would consider taking a turn on the BOD if they could get to meetings,
easily. I'd like to suggest Google plus hangouts as a way of
facilitating such meetings.
Just like on Facebook someone would setup a Grex page. Folks who are on
the board and others who would like to be part of meetings would need
Google+ accounts. That's the hardest part. From there on our you'd be
able to have board meetings without anyone being in the same room. You
could connect with video by smartphone or computer or by simple
telephone dialin. Everyone is heard by everyone else. The person who
is speaking gets the large video frame, others are along the bottom of
the page.
Anyhow, just knowing this could be easily done might encourage people to
volunteer.
Here is a link to more on the Google hangouts:
http://goo.gl/z74dv
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tonster
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response 36 of 57:
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Dec 15 13:39 UTC 2011 |
People still use Google+?
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keesan
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response 37 of 57:
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Dec 15 13:54 UTC 2011 |
Would a conference call not work, without the video?
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mary
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response 38 of 57:
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Dec 15 14:49 UTC 2011 |
Yes.
Not as well.
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keesan
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response 39 of 57:
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Dec 15 14:54 UTC 2011 |
Why do you need video to talk about grex?
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mary
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response 40 of 57:
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Dec 15 15:16 UTC 2011 |
You don't need it. It's not about need.
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glitch
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response 41 of 57:
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Dec 15 15:38 UTC 2011 |
I'd prefer a voice solution to a video solution as well. Having done a
large number of videoconferences on high-end hardware, I'm less than
impressed. I can probably find a friend who'd host a conference call, too.
If voice isn't important, IRC makes a fine place for meetings, would be
easy to record, and if anyone wanted to sit in they could idle in the
channel.
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ryan
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response 42 of 57:
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Dec 15 15:50 UTC 2011 |
What about in 'party' on Grex ;)
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richard
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response 43 of 57:
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Dec 15 15:54 UTC 2011 |
Grex doesn't own the name Grex. Other places use it. There is a
grex.com that is not us for instance. We never trademarked the name.
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walkman
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response 44 of 57:
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Dec 15 16:00 UTC 2011 |
dumpsterdiving.com is also taken.
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richard
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response 45 of 57:
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Dec 15 16:03 UTC 2011 |
cyberspace.org is however a nice domain name that surely has some value.
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jep
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response 46 of 57:
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Dec 15 19:07 UTC 2011 |
"Cyberspace.org" was picked because it was available and it was a buzz
word. The name probably does, or did, have some value, but for Grex it
was just something to use in hope confused people would stumble into the
conferencing system.
There's no "cyberspace.com" WWW site. Someone owns the domain name but
doesn't use it for the WWW. It may reflect something about the current
value of "cyberspace.org".
I think it's better to keep Grex going for a while longer. I hope that
can happen. It looks promising for a couple more years as there are
people willing to serve on the Board. In a couple more years, lots
could happen. A new crowd might appear. Unix, text and non-profits
might become popular again. (Grex is the text-message mechanism of the
Facebook age! We have privacy here.) Heck, get a cell phone app and
people will probably start blaming Grex for car accidents.
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tonster
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response 47 of 57:
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Dec 15 19:12 UTC 2011 |
I can certainly help host an audiconferencing line if it's needed.
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glitch
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response 48 of 57:
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Dec 15 19:25 UTC 2011 |
I think there's definitely a place for Grex in the world. There are a few
groups I'm part of that are looking for a BBS or forum solution that has a
lower signal-to-noise ratio than most of the public Internet -- and less
spam!
Grex could probably generate more interest from the vintage computing
crowd, too. There aren't many fully text-based services out there anymore.
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kentn
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response 49 of 57:
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Dec 16 05:41 UTC 2011 |
Item 76 in agora has been linked to item 326 in coop.
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