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chelsea
response 25 of 256: Mark Unseen   Sep 27 14:07 UTC 1993

It is quite strange how that particular piece, "Graceful Ghost", seems
to linger in memory.  I often find myself humming the tune or considering
the interesting syncopation of the first few bars.  I've even awakened 
in the middle of the night to the sound of John playing this though he's
fast asleep at the time.  Weird.  I'd say this melody is haunting except
that might sound trite.
remmers
response 26 of 256: Mark Unseen   Sep 27 21:25 UTC 1993

It's a ghost's playing that you hear in the middle of the night.
krj
response 27 of 256: Mark Unseen   Oct 3 16:54 UTC 1993

"Graceful Ghost" was a favorite piece on the CBC late night program
Brave New Waves, back in its glory days around 1984-1985 when they were
much less formatted than they are today.  (I wish I hadn't loaned
out most of the tapes I made in that era...)  That's where I first
encountered it, in the middle of the night on static-filled broadcasts.
(CBC-FM was just *barely* receivable in Lansing back in those days.)
polygon
response 28 of 256: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 17:35 UTC 1993

Last week in St. Louis, I visited Scott Joplin's house, now a museum.
Except for a couple of buildings on either side, the neighborhood is
practically all gone, just weeds and rubble and burned-out buildings.

T.S. Eliot grew up only a few blocks away, at the same time that Joplin
lived here; but Eliot's home is no longer standing.

The Scott Joplin house museum is owned and operated by the state of
Missouri.  There was just the one tour guide while I was there, and I
was the only visitor during the hour or so that I spent there.

The exhibits are fairly sparse.  There's one or two rooms which have
to do with ragtime music in general, including other composers, etc.

The museum consists of two adjoining townhouses, built at the same time.
Some time before 1900, they were each divided into upper and lower flats.
Scott Joplin and his first wife lived in one of the upper flats for a
few years after 1900, after they moved to St. Louis from Sedalia MO.

Joplin's own flat, which has been restored to something approaching
what it might have been like (and without the usual museum paraphenalia
of velvet ropes and such), is dark and narrow, with a few small rooms.

His connection with this specific apartment hangs on the single thread
of one city directory entry.  It could have been a typo.  For someone
of such national prominence (he'd already published "Maple Leaf Rag"
before he came to St. Louis), the documentary record is depressingly
scant.

Two things I had forgotten about Joplin, if I'd ever known: (1) he was
college-educated, and (2) he died of syphilis.
remmers
response 29 of 256: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 22:02 UTC 1993

Interesting; I knew (1) but not (2).

Thanks for entering this.  Someday I'd like to visit some of the places
of historical importance to ragtime, most especially Sedalia, MO.  I'm
hoping to be able to attend the annual Joplin festival there next spring.
remmers
response 30 of 256: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 22:39 UTC 1993

"Graceful Ghost" is one of the more difficult ragtime pieces I've
undertaken to learn.  I've got the first two strains down reasonably
well, but the third -- which goes all over the map key-wise and
mood-wise -- is slower going.

Recently added James Scott's "Grace and Beauty" to my repertoire.
A sunny piece in A flat major with brief teasing excursions into
into a stormier minor mode, it lives up to its title.
polygon
response 31 of 256: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 03:13 UTC 1993

I forgot to mention, above, that the Scott Joplin house museum has a
player piano (treadle pump) for visitors to use, and a big collection
of ragtime music player piano rolls.  I played James Scott's "Kansas
City Rag" and Scott Joplin's "Fig Leaf Rag."
remmers
response 32 of 256: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 07:49 UTC 1993

Good choices!
arabella
response 33 of 256: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 13:04 UTC 1993

I occasionally play through "Graceful Ghost," though I've never really
worked at getting the B and C sections to be comfortable to play.  All
those accidentals take some getting used to.  I've seen Bolcom play
this piece live on several occasions, and he seems to play it faster
nowadays that I feel it.  I first became familiar with the piece on
the album "Heliotrope Bouquet," which includes pieces by Joseph
Lamb, James Scott, Bolcom and William Albright (another composer at
the U of Mich.).  Bolcom and Albright both play on this recording.
I believe my scratchy copy of this record is about 20 years old...
polygon
response 34 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 02:29 UTC 1994

John, would you care to expand on the comparison of Joplin-Mozart and
Scott-Beethoven?
wh
response 35 of 256: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 11:16 UTC 1994

Re #28, polygon. Out of curiosity, what street or part of St. Loius
was the museum in? I lived there 1974-1979.
omni
response 36 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 29 06:32 UTC 1996

  I recently fell into a bargain: A $5 CD of Joplin's rags called "The
Entertainer" played by Richard Zimmerman, and it's worth every penny!

1- The Entertainer
2- Maple Leaf Rag
3- Swipsey
4- Sunflower Slow Drag
5- Easy Winners
6- Ragtime Dance
7- The Cascades
8- Bethena
9- Gladiolus Rag
10-Heliotrope Bouquee
11-Fig Leaf Rag
12-PineApple Rag
13-Solace
14-Euphonic Sounds
15-Stomptime Rag
16-Scott Joplin's New Rag

   What I like about this disc, is that they are played completely; the
average time of a track is 4 mins. I especially like Solace, which is 
6 mins long and absolutly fine. I found this one at Meijer. I don't think
that there was another one, which is a shame.
orinoco
response 37 of 256: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 23:35 UTC 1996

The ones of those I've heard, I love, and the ones I haven't, I'd love to
hear...
chelsea
response 38 of 256: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 05:11 UTC 1996

Of all the rags I've heard my favorite is "The Graceful Ghost".
Moody, slippery, and incredibly elegant.
remmers
response 39 of 256: Mark Unseen   Apr 3 15:59 UTC 1996

Re #34: I don't think the Joplin/Scott - Mozart/Beethoven
comparison runs all that deep. Scott's rags tend to be more
virtuosic than Joplin's, with crashing chords and more of a
tendency to use the high and low ranges of the keyboard than
Joplin. Joplin has a simpler, sweeter, less dense composing
style. To that extent, Scott is more like Beethoven and Joplin
more like Mozart.

Re #36: I believe that Zimmerman CD is culled from a 5-record
vinyl recording of Joplin's complete piano solo works, done in the
1970's for the Murray Hill label. I've always thought Zimmerman's
interpretations to be excellent and am pleased to hear that at
least some of them are available now on CD. I hope the entire
album is released on CD.

I've been working on learning to play "Graceful Ghost" lately and
think I have it pretty well down except for the difficult third
strain, which still needs a lot of work on my part--those key
modulations are something fierce!  The composer, William Bolcom,
recorded "Graceful Ghost" in the early 1970's on an album called
"Heliotrope Bouquet" that is not available on CD to the best of
my knowledge. On listening to his recording recently, I found
to my surprise that he plays it in a "swing" style (uneven 8th
notes) that is more reminiscent of 1920's jazz than classical
ragtime. I think it works better his way and have taken to
playing it that way myself.

Since I haven't responded to this item in a couple of years, let
me catch y'all up on some things. There's a Ragtime Home Page
on the web (URL: http://www.ragtimers.org) maintained by Mary
Healy, with announcements of upcoming festivals, publishers'
lists of sheet music and recordings, and a *large* collection
of ragtime MIDI recordings available for download (and with
pointers to other MIDI sites). It's an excellent source of
information on ragtime.

For usenet newsers: a newsgroup devoted to ragtime started up
about a year ago - rec.music.ragtime. It's pretty low-volume,
but some interesting and informative threads develop now and
then. Ed Berlin, a performer and ragtime historian, who
published a recent biography of Scott Joplin, is a regular
participant.

On the performing front, I've gotten heavily into James Scott.
It's hard stuff, but I think I have "Grace and Beauty", "Ever-
green Rag", and "Honey Moon Rag" under my belt now, with "Pegasus
Rag" coming along pretty well.  I'd love to master the great
"Efficiency Rag", but the last strain is a killer.
remmers
response 40 of 256: Mark Unseen   Apr 12 10:29 UTC 1996

For a while I've been looking for a book of Joseph Lamb rags
called "Ragtime Treasures". Used to own it, but seem to have
lost it some time ago, probably in one of my changes of
residence. It was published a few years after Lamb's death
in 1960 and contains a number of previously unpublished rags,
including such gems as "Arctic Sunset", "Cottontail Rag",
and "Ragtime Bobolink". The book has been out of print for
quite a while and some recent attempts on my part to obtain
a copy were unsuccessful. Then Mary told me about Southern
Music, a sheet music outlet that stocks a lot of old, hard-
to-find items. A call revealed that they had *one* copy,
which I ordered forthwith. It arrived via priority mail
yesterday, just three days after I ordered it. Now *that*
is service!

So if you're looking for some obscure, out-of-print piece of
sheet music, I'd advice giving Southern Music a call.

As part of the same order I acquired "Rialto Ripples", a 1917
rag by George Gershwin and Will Donaldson. I have a couple of
recordings of it and have been wanting to work on it myself.
remmers
response 41 of 256: Mark Unseen   Apr 17 16:19 UTC 1996

I've had the Joseph Lamb "Ragtime Treasures" book for a week now,
and it's *GREAT*. Wonderfully melodic, rich texture and harmony,
some truly clever experimentation. "Cottontail Rag", "Arctic
Sunset", "The Old Home Rag", "Ragtime Bobolink", "Thoroughbred
Rag", "Toadstool Rag", "Firefly Rag" -- they're all masterpieces.
I'm really glad I was able to acquire this.
remmers
response 42 of 256: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 20:12 UTC 1996

FESTIVAL REPORT
---------------
Late last month I attended the Tom Turpin Ragtime Festival, held
in Savannah, Georgia. Turpin was a contemporary of Scott Joplin
(late 19th, early 20th centuries), and Savannah was his home
town.  The festival is an annual event.

What happens at a ragtime festival? Well, they bring in several
guest performers and have concerts, dances, and after-hours jam
sessions over a period of several days. Several ragtime festivals
are held around the country every year. This was the first I've
attended; it was a real treat and has whetted my appetite for
more.

The guest artists were a mixed bag of old-timers and newcomers
and form an almost complete roster of today's leading ragtimers.
The old-timers group included "Ragtime Bob" Darch and Trebor
Tichoner.  Darch has been performing and promoting ragtime since
the 1940's and prior to the Scott Joplin revival in the early
1970's was one of the few people doing so. Tichoner is perhaps
best-known today as the editor of the Dover series of early
ragtime anthologies: "Ragtime Rarities", "Ragtime Rediscoveries",
etc. -- invaluable sources for anyone wishing to study or perform
ragtime. When these guys sit down at the piano and start playing,
it seems as natural as breathing.

Then there were the young composers and players -- e.g. Frank
French, Scott Kirby, Jeff Barnhart. French and Kirby perform
together a lot -- their compositions seem to be spiritually
descended from Scott Joplin: lyrical, with strong folk, European,
and Latin American influences. Barnhart is a knock-your-socks-off
stride pianist whose style reminds me a lot of Fats Waller and
Michigan's "Mr. B". He comes to ragtime from a jazz background;
this was only his second ragtime festival, but he took it by
storm.

Other featured players were Bob Ault, J. Hamilton Douglas, David
Jasen, Glenn Jenks, Terry Parrish, David Reffkin, Mike Schwimmer,
Terry Waldo, and Richard Zimmerman. I've known about Zimmerman
for a while, being an admirer of his recording of the complete
piano works of Scott Joplin, released in the 1970's and recently
reissued on CD. Good as his early recordings are, he seems to
have developed substantially as a performer since then --
prodigious technique, dazzling improvisatory skill, a grandiose
playing style that I'm tempted to describe as "Beethovenesque".

Some of the performers make their living at music; for others
it's an avocation. Terry Parrish is an MD whose day job is
director of a mental health center in Indianapolis. Richard
Zimmerman performs and teaches magic when he's not ragtiming.

One reason for my attending the festival -- in addition to
hearing lots of good music -- was to see how my own playing
skills stack up against the people who perform at these
things. Although I'm not in the same league as the best of the
performers listed above (nor did I expect to be), I could hold my
own with some of the folks I heard.

At one of the after-hours sessions, around midnight, with a
smallish audience remaining, I worked up the courage to the step
up to the piano and do some stuff. Started out with James Scott's
"Evergreen Rag". They applauded and asked for more. Did Joe
Lamb's "Cottontail Rag". (Lamb, along with Joplin and Scott, is
considered to be one of the "big three" classical ragtime
composers.) They asked for more Lamb, so I did "Ragtime
Bobolink". Also Joplin's "Bethena" and Scott's "Caliope Rag".

After I was done they expressed curiosity about who I was,
inasmuch as I seemed to have come out of nowhere. (I'm told that
one tends to see a lot of the same faces from one festival to the
next.) So we exchanged introductions. Practically fell over when
one of the people in the group turned out to be Joe Lamb's
daughter Patricia. Seems she and her husband are frequent
attendees at ragtime festivals. In the same group I met Lillibeth
Wood, a white-haired retired music teacher from Ohio who earlier
in the evening had performed beautifully several Lamb
pieces. She's a close friend of Patricia, and offered to send me
copies of all the unpublished Lamb works that she has (there's
quite a bit of that, apparently). Of course I will want
everything that she has!

I shall be attending more festivals...
remmers
response 43 of 256: Mark Unseen   Nov 7 17:39 UTC 1996

A couple of demographic notes:

Although some of the performers at the Turpin Festival were
young, few of the audience at the various concerts were. Very
few attendees under 40, and I'd say that most were over 50,
many well over. Ragtime does not appear to be popular among
the young.

Many if not most of the early ragtime composers and performers
were black (Joplin, Scott, Turpin, etc. etc.), those active in
ragtime today are almost exclusively white. The only black
performer at the festival was J. Hamilton Douglas, director
of the Scott Joplin House in St. Louis. At every concert there
were only a handful of black people in the audience.
krj
response 44 of 256: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 23:43 UTC 1996

   ((( linked over from the first music conference to the second )))
arabella
response 45 of 256: Mark Unseen   Dec 7 19:40 UTC 1996

(Also linked over from the first music conference to the classical
music conference.)
davel
response 46 of 256: Mark Unseen   Dec 31 13:08 UTC 1996

<comes up for air after finishing on the umpteenth try>
Thanks for linking it ... & for all the posted material, John & others.
Personally, I think I'd heard a little ragtime earlier, but my first real
awareness of it came from a friend in college who really liked it.  This was
several years before _The_Sting_, which seems to have been the trigger for
giving ragtime the general exposure it's had since then.  Still all too minor,
but most people recognize *some* of it & many know what it's called.

(Just to add to John's demographic note: my friend, Lisa Lee, was
Chinese-American.  I've lost touch with her, years ago, I'm sorry to say.)
remmers
response 47 of 256: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 14:58 UTC 1997

People have at least heard of Scott Joplin now. But most of the
composers of the classical ragtime era (which dates roughly
from the late 1890's to World War I), many of considerable
talent, now wallow in obscurity. I think the music is perceived
as quaint and old-fashioned, which is too bad, because so much
of it is so wonderful. Kudos to the small band of contemporary
performers, publicists, musical historians, and fans who are
keeping it alive.

During my Savannah trip I acquired a bunch of new sheet music
and in the course of sight-reading and practicing it have
become acquainted with some excellent composers, both bygone and
contemporary, whom I hadn't know a whole lot about. Highlights:

_First Ladies of Hoosier Ragtime_ - collection of the rags
of Indianapolis-based composers May Aufderheide and Julia
Lee Niebergall, compiled by Richard Zimmerman. Sunny, upbeat
stuff, charmingly melodic.  My favorites are Aufderheide's
"Richmond Rag" (named for Richmond Indiana), "Buzzer Rag",
"A Totally Different Rag", and Niebergall's "Hoosier Rag".

_Gems of Texas Ragtime_ - large, outstanding anthology of
composers from Texas, also compiled by Zimmerman. Includes
the complete ragtime compositions of Euday Bowman (composer of
"Twelfth Street Rag"), and several early blues pieces. I'm
currently working on P.L. Eubanks' "Mutt and Jeff Rag",
Laverne Hanshaw's "Niagara Rag", Clarence Woods' and John
Caldwell's "Graveyard Blues". Lots of other gems to be mined
in this collection.

_A Garden of Ragtime_ by Glenn Jenks, a classically-trained
contemporary ragtimer who makes his living as a piano teacher
in Maine. He does ragtime festivals a lot and was a highlighted
performer in Savannah. This is a collection of his ragtime
compositions of the 1970's and 1980's. Mixture of lively up-
tempo stuff and some rather soulful, exquisite slow-tempo
pieces with complex harmonies and textures. Lushly romantic.
Reminds me a bit of William Bolcom's work, especially Bolcom's
"Graceful Ghost".
albaugh
response 48 of 256: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 17:09 UTC 1997

Seems like in my distant past I remember seeing something on TV about a
"fourth B", who might have been a black classical (ragtime?) composer whose
last name began with B.  Anyone know what/who the heck I'm thinking of?
remmers
response 49 of 256: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 12:02 UTC 1997

Only prominent ragtime composer I can think of whose name starts
with "B" is Eubie Blake. He wrote "Charleston Rag", "The Chevy
Chase", "The Baltimore Todalo", numerous others. His career
began in the 1890's and continued well into the 1970's, when he
was rediscovered and did some new recordings as well as concert
and TV appearances. He was somewhat over 100 when he died just
a few years ago. Perhaps he was the "fourth B".
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