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nharmon
response 25 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 19:38 UTC 2006

No, you can still join the military being color-blind. But there are a
lot of jobs you can not perform. I was disqualified because I underwent
ACL reconstructive surgery during my junior year of high school. The
recruiters told me this could be waived, and the USMC recruiter seemed
to be the only one interested in pushing the paperwork to find out. In
the end I did not get a waiver. The Navy recuiter told me that if I
didn't tell anyone, there was no reason for anyone to know.

Re #23: Its a lot easier to pick up and move when you're single and
living with your parents.  But in four years when I complete college I
will have a house I am paying for, a wife, and maybe a kid.
nharmon
response 26 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 19:39 UTC 2006

Oh yeah, does anyone know what the worse that would have happened if I
had lied about my injury to the Navy and they found out later?
mcnally
response 27 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 19:42 UTC 2006

 re #25:  I wonder if, under the current recruiting shortages, your
 application would be handled differently today.
nharmon
response 28 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 19:51 UTC 2006

I think the current recruiting shortages are only being experienced in
the Army, with the other three branches meeting recruiting quotas with
no problems. Though, that may change.
mcnally
response 29 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 20:38 UTC 2006

 re #26:  the answer to that would have depended a great deal on the
 amount of time between your omission and their discovery and the 
 quality of your service during that time.

nharmon
response 30 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 20:46 UTC 2006

This is just a guess, but I imagine the punishment would range from an
other than honorable discharge to jail time.
tod
response 31 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 21:18 UTC 2006

We had a guy who was prior Army and he had his lead sleds(jump wings).
He also brought with him a bad knee that he didn't bother to tell anyone
about.  He got a general discharge after a year and a half of physical therapy
and light duty...but he still performed his main duties of sitting at a stool
at a workbench fixing electronics.  If he had been deployed to the Middle East
with us, one of us would have killed him in his sleep.
jep
response 32 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 21:54 UTC 2006

re resp:31: Yeah, you tough guy, you, you'd have just done him in for 
his disability.  I'm sure it's a scenario that you went through from 
time to time.
jep
response 33 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 21:55 UTC 2006

(Todd's tougher than me, no doubt about it.  But he's not *that* tough.)
cross
response 34 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 22:24 UTC 2006

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tod
response 35 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 22:27 UTC 2006

re #32
If you take "kill" literally, I understand your disbelief.  I can attest
to several guys that went home on medivac for being cowboy assholes, though.
You think there isn't friendly fire in Iraq?  Think again.
Guys who go off to war all gung-ho scare those around them and nobody wants
some jackass dooming them to a firefight at inopportune moments.
Here's a real life example:
We had this guy who went to NROTC at Penn State and flunked out his 4th year
so they shoved him into our platoon as a corporal.  He wouldn't shut up.  He
thought he was all that cuz he'd been in NROTC. All he did was bitch that he'd
spent 6 years enlisted(2 active then 4 NROTC) and how he felt he should be
at least a sergeant.  He also had these fantasies he couldn't keep to himself
about "winning a purple heart" as if getting wounded is something to brag
about.  Well, this guy had vision problems and rather than reporting them he'd
snuck and lied his way around it cuz he didn't want to have to wear the
BC's(birth control glasses ala buddy holly style.)
Well, genius boy got me and him lost one night in our Hummer and we wound up
in Iraq.  I had to lead the hummer back walking in front of it through a
fuckin minefield no doubt and up to a US Army command post bunker where I
almost got my head blown off.
I cracked this dude in the head the next night with the front sight post of
my rifle and punched him out.  He had a nice big fat shiny black eye for a
few weeks after that and he kept his mouth shut.  They sent him to the rear
with the gear cuz others piped up they didn't want the same kind of adventures
he brought down on me.
If you don't think I'm that kind of a bastard when my life depends on it then
think again numbnuts.
tod
response 36 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 22:29 UTC 2006

re #34
Yes, the guy was a shitbird.  If he'd got corrective lenses, made it known
to everyone, and then wasn't assigned anything where his disability was a
liability then it probably would have been a non-issue.  The fact that he was
Rambo in his head didn't help him any.
nharmon
response 37 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 23:00 UTC 2006

I had never gone to MEPS. The Marine Corps recruiter had me sign some
paper work releasing my medical files. The decision on a waiver was made
only by looking at the files.
tod
response 38 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 23:18 UTC 2006

Not much you can do if your medical records stop em in their tracks.
springne
response 39 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 23:19 UTC 2006

http://bush2004.com - my website.  It's grown a bit out of date though.
cross
response 40 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 23:55 UTC 2006

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albaugh
response 41 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 00:02 UTC 2006

> I do laugh at things that are humerous.  (sic)

You know, such as the "funny bone".  ;-)
tod
response 42 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 00:04 UTC 2006

We had this one Marine with narcolepsy. He was fresh out of comm school and
would zonk at the drop of a hat.  I couldn't understand how he made it through
bootcamp or MOS training but he did.  Anyway, he got his general discharge
before he could do any real damage.
cross
response 43 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 00:08 UTC 2006

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tod
response 44 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 00:38 UTC 2006

I honestly couldn't tell you how.  It weirded me out.
nharmon
response 45 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 01:46 UTC 2006

As much as I wanted to join the military, I wasn't going to lie to get
in. I didn't like being denied, and felt it was a CYA thing for the
military. They most likely had a good reason, and like Dan said, if the
injury might jeopardize the rest of a team then there is no reason to
risk it.

Either way, I'm more than happy being an Air Force wannabe. :)
bhoward
response 46 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 04:01 UTC 2006

Man, this topic has been busy since (my) last night!

Re#18 I knew how to type.

Btw, with regard to the earlier part of this discussion, you may
also apply for a Presidential appointment if your Senator has
used up his or her allocation.  My dad got his appointment to
West Point from JFK if I recall correctly.
tsty
response 47 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 15:34 UTC 2006

red meat for   Cy Klone ... and *no* responses ???? da man musta be ill!
  
  
  
  
very, very ill.
,
naftee
response 48 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 21:47 UTC 2006

;llllll
happyboy
response 49 of 54: Mark Unseen   Jan 22 20:06 UTC 2006

hi naftee!
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