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janc
response 25 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 19:27 UTC 2003

Re 23: No, that reasoning would not support killing the handicapped, at
least not the vast majority.  If a person was a complete vegetable, so
that they had no functioning self-awareness, no consious hopes or desires,
and if there were no loving friends or family who wanted the person alive,
then that reasoning would permit the person to be killed.  Why not?
sabre
response 26 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 19:40 UTC 2003

Because of principle. 
Out of respect for human life.
Because to do so puts you in a position to do something you don't have an
ETHICAL right to do
Last but not least....because God loves them all and to kill them will anger
him
flem
response 27 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 19:51 UTC 2003

Respect for human life is so... so...  *liberal*.  :)
edina
response 28 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 19:54 UTC 2003

When the IRS starts supporting "you're a full-fledged human at conception",
then I'm on board.
rcurl
response 29 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 20:58 UTC 2003

Start taxing them, too.
orinoco
response 30 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 21:07 UTC 2003

Most of 'em don't have much of an income.  Don't own property either, unless
you count the space they take up in the womb, and there isn't usually any
resale value on that.
mary
response 31 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 21:39 UTC 2003

I'm getting such a kick out of visualizing sabre screaming, "My God is
fucking mad at all you fucking bitches for spreading your legs for every
fucking dick that wants in.  You'd be better off, slut, to use the fucking
corn God grew for you."

This show is too much of a train wreck to be real.  But as train
wrecks go it's pretty funny.
jmsaul
response 32 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 22:41 UTC 2003

What sabre's actually doing is sitting at home, giggling, and saying "I knew
those predictable dumbasses wouldn't be able to resist this one."
twenex
response 33 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 22:48 UTC 2003

A true "universal respect for human life" requires denial of the death
penalty, murder, war, and the means to cause, by action or inaction, the deaht
of e.g. a bum.

Anything else is a qualification. Foetuses are not self-aware, therefore imho,
abortion for god reason like in the case of a child who would be unloved
because of a rape incident, or a pregnancy whose termination would result in
the death of the mother, is admissable if ver carefully considered and agreed
upon by the mother, the father (when applicable, i.e. when the father is able
and willing to ACT as a father) and MD/surgeon.
md
response 34 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 23:13 UTC 2003

Has anyone considered that sabre might be the sort of person who 
invests so much ego in everything he says that the effort of defending 
#0, which he didn't even believe when he wrote it, could actually turn 
him into the rabid anti-abortion type he's impersonating?  Psychology 
101.  I mean, everyone knows what Rane et al. are gonna say anyway, so 
why not say "Why, sir, that is most justly observed," or something?  
(Generic "he" there.  sabre could be Mary Remmers for all I know.)
dcat
response 35 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 23:45 UTC 2003

Mostly I think 'sabre' is a misnomer.  'epee' might be more accurate.
mary
response 36 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 02:35 UTC 2003

I miss mulberry.
jaklumen
response 37 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 04:28 UTC 2003

resp:19 whoa, he's making *you* do the dance?  Well, I responded a 
while back to other stuff (maybe not as long) so I guess it was coming.

resp:31 an interesting and witty way of putting it.  Sometimes, it 
seems more like a rotten apple pie fight.

resp:32 Why yes!  True, Joe.  Wait for my other brother, sabre.  So 
juicy, plump, BIG!  *clop clop clop*
sj2
response 38 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 05:24 UTC 2003

Duh!! People still post on this guy's threads???
rcurl
response 39 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 05:38 UTC 2003

If every thread that deserved being ignored were ignored, it would be
rather silent around here.
janc
response 40 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 05:41 UTC 2003

Re #32:  If all else fails, I'm sure that's what he'd prefer to have us think
he is up to.  I have no idea who sabre is and what he is thinking.  I respond
to please myself, serving my own agenda.  If that happens to also serve
someone else's agenda, then I have no problem with that.

Re #26:  I do have a problem with that handy, dandy, pocket-sized God you got
there.  That's a funny kind of God that you can just whip out of your pocket
any time you need him to back up your opinions.

Now, me, I happen to believe in God too, but I believe that God is at least
as large and complex as the universe, and at least as difficult to understand.
It's entirely beyond me to attempt to state with any certainty what God thinks
about any particular issue.  If God has opinions, I expect they are all way
too large to fit into my brain.  Maybe after I've completely understood the
entire universe, I'll be ready to start making semi-confident guesses about
what God thinks.

I don't believe you are enough smarter than me to know what God thinks.  I
don't think that thing you are calling "God" is God.  I think that thing is
a little sock puppet you've stuck your hand into so it will conveniently
back you up on any opinion you might care to offer.  Forgive me if I am
not impressed by either the strength of your argument or the depth of your
faith.
sabre
response 41 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 11:14 UTC 2003

RE:#5 
Here's an example tod
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/lacicharge1.html

RE#31
You're funny....you made me laugh
 
RE# 32...You read me like a book

RE# 35  dcat?  what a pussy ass name. I saw your photo on the web.
A little faggot like you shouldn't say a word about anyone else's handle

#38 You stupid moron. Do you realise how fucking stupid you sound when you
do the very thing you're posting against? You are a fucking post whore.
  
#34 md..You'll never know.

#39. That is so true. every bbs needs a few trolls to stir things up.
You lamers are so *yawn* BORING.
 
#33  Don't get your panties in a wad twenex.
cross
response 42 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 16:27 UTC 2003

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gull
response 43 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 14 15:48 UTC 2003

Re #7: When Rane uses the word "liberal", it's not the common usage that is
a synonym for "Democrat".

Re #31: LOL.
twenex
response 44 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 16 14:13 UTC 2003

<twenex untwists panties>
polytarp
response 45 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 16 17:22 UTC 2003

Fop.
tod
response 46 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 16 23:53 UTC 2003

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johnyell
response 47 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 19 16:29 UTC 2003

Sorry but i don't agree with what you say, everyone has a right to give up
thier child, but what is not acceptable is that the man cannot decide as well,
it is totally up to the female.

jmsaul
response 48 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 19 17:55 UTC 2003

I've occasionally thought that someone who's identified as the impregnator
of a pregnant woman should get a choice:  pay her the price of an abortion
and give up all parental rights to the child should she decide to have it,
or pay child support normally and keep parental rights.
drew
response 49 of 209: Mark Unseen   Jul 19 18:49 UTC 2003

Sounds reasonable to me.
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