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polygon
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response 25 of 71:
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Aug 9 04:32 UTC 2003 |
If a service insists on sending mail as HTML, then it should get
used to not having mail accepted, and anyone who uses that service
should think about other options.
A URL is not by itself HTML.
HTML is not essential to email.
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i
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response 26 of 71:
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Aug 9 04:37 UTC 2003 |
Almost all the HTML e-mail i get is spam - even with heavy spam filtering.
Most of what isn't spam is pretty low grade anyway.
I'd be happy for an option to bounce all HTML e-mail with a "HTTP format
e-mail is not accepted here" error message.
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pvn
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response 27 of 71:
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Aug 9 07:02 UTC 2003 |
Yeah. If you want to use HTML then post it on an f-ing web page. The
email is text. Its nice to allow attachments that are not text by
encoding it as text but the basic SMTP email that is the glue of the
Internet is fundamentally 7-bit ascii text.
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cmcgee
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response 28 of 71:
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Aug 9 14:34 UTC 2003 |
Some really techno-clueless types use AOL. Since version 5, AOL has not been
configurable to a "text-only" option. All mail from that provider comes as
HTML only, not even a 1)text--2)HTML form. It's a serious pain for me, using
Pine, and for a lot of members on a 500 person email list that I administer.
But there is no way around it unless AOL changes its software.
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russ
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response 29 of 71:
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Aug 11 00:01 UTC 2003 |
Re #28: There are filters to convert HTML to plain text; something
as simple as the sed expression "s/<[^>]*>//" will do it. If the
list maintainer can't or won't use them, that's another problem.
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rcurl
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response 30 of 71:
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Aug 11 00:52 UTC 2003 |
I get mail via AOL that always has both text and html. It is a nuisance to
view the attached text, but that works. I don't know whether AOL is sending
the text or PINE is adding it.
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cmcgee
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response 31 of 71:
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Aug 11 00:53 UTC 2003 |
Russ, email me. We use majordomo software to maintain the list and forward
emails. Are you saying that we could use that expression to clear out HTML
before the email is forwarded to the list?
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polygon
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response 32 of 71:
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Aug 11 13:46 UTC 2003 |
Here's another spam which is heavy with vocabulary; presumably the come-on
message is in the image file.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Return-Path: <pol@AOL.COM>
Received: from elijah.churchquest.com (elijah.churchquest.com
[207.44.130.42])
by hamjudo.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id h720Pnc5017663
for <polygon@potifos.com>; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 20:25:49 -0400
Received: from amarillo ([218.70.137.44])
(authenticated (0 bits))
by elijah.churchquest.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h720PXg12954
for <polygon@potifos.com>; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 19:25:34 -0500
Message-Id: <200308020025.h720PXg12954@elijah.churchquest.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 00:25:38 GMT
From: "Jeffrey Kazemzadeh"<pol@AOL.COM>
To: polygon@potifos.com
Subject: melon
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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ainu population crawled beatrice tamer experimentally mendelevium export
metavariable adsorbs savaged bahrein blueprint secondarily hotness
cortege bought avon accessed plucking porterhouse metamorphose algonquin
$RANDO MIZE plenitude accoutrement adaptable evenness poetical
immediacies bracelet tenuous immediately adulthood binghamton expensively
measurably bookkeep teleprompter savor accidental anglican american aleck
evaluate melodic creeper scripts exclaimer advertises cough measurements
acrimony mignon $RANDOM IZE middlemen atropos cosines administers alicia
housework brazenness courtesan expands porter exiled adonis adriatic bern
acquit hysteric menacing brazed horseman poisonousness thanklessly
[ra.gif]
admonishments bartok hovered schelling critical tempered explicit borders
adoration plowman sap posits theist sawfly pots cries membership scenes
scrooge polynomials icing imbibe exotic biggs hulls polaron illusionary
scarceness hornwort milestones $RANDOM IZE brand cosmetics metalloid
pocus ethnography policing courthouses biggs megahertz populations
microcode expository scar beauregard adages temptations borax tangible
hypoactive bathurst microcomputers accessory polka accrual scrupulous
bangui exclusionary adored mentalities expanded $RANDOMI ZE merited
boarder advantageously hurts brandishes plunging courser possibly
schlieren saturdays mercantile populated tantrums populates acculturated
meteors ahmedabad mechanically teemed atalanta crashers
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remmers
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response 33 of 71:
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Aug 11 16:44 UTC 2003 |
My mail program (kmail) displays HTML messages as raw HTML, but I can
click on a button to have it render the HTML if I wish. I do that on
those extremely rare occasions that I receive an HTML message that
isn't spam. Otherwise, I simply click on the delete button.
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gull
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response 34 of 71:
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Aug 12 20:28 UTC 2003 |
Hotmail has also started sending mail as just HTML, not text+HTML.
Given the amount of mail they send not sending two versions of
everything is probably a significant bandwidth savings. Of course, I
just trash those messages since Pine refuses to open them.
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rcurl
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response 35 of 71:
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Aug 17 01:56 UTC 2003 |
The following just received:
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 03:27:09 -0400 (EST)
From: Fethard-biz Manager <Walliw_Melba@mail.com>
To: ranecurl@umich.edu
Subject: You credit card has been charged for $234.65
Important notice
We have just charged your credit card for money laundry service in amount
of $234.65 (because you are either child pornography webmaster or deal
with dirty money, which require us to layndry them and then send to your
checking account).
If you feel this transaction was made by our mistake, please press "No".
If you confirm this transaction, please press "Yes" and fill in the form
below.
[FORM]
Enter your credit card number here:
Enter your credit card expiration date:
Contacts:
Phone: +5982 902 5627
Fax: +5982 902 3114
E-mail: support@fethard.biz
ICQ: 156746629
------------------------------------------------------------------------
I forwarded it to abuse@umich.edu.
I doubt that my credit card has actually be debited for that amount as
then why would they be asking for my credit card number?
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scott
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response 36 of 71:
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Aug 17 02:32 UTC 2003 |
It's just to get your attention. What they really want is a click on either
option so they know it's a spammable address.
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gelinas
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response 37 of 71:
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Aug 17 02:54 UTC 2003 |
Yup; 'board@cyberspace' received a message about "our" Citibank checking
account. A first glance, the URL looked almost reasonable: it did mention
"www.citibank", but a closer look confirmed my first impulse: ignore the
sucker.
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bru
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response 38 of 71:
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Aug 17 04:24 UTC 2003 |
why don't you take action to stop ths spam!
Well, okay. I realize there isn't a lot to do. But in the past year my spam
mail on this system has gone up 1000%
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rcurl
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response 39 of 71:
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Aug 17 05:54 UTC 2003 |
Mine too. I would like a way to block/divert spam in pine.
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i
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response 40 of 71:
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Aug 17 07:07 UTC 2003 |
Upgrading grex's anti-spam defenses is currently on the back burner;
getting our e-mail working on the new grex system is a higher priority.
With our extremely diverse user base, grex can't adopt many of the anti-
spam rules used by businesses - blanket blocking of "high-spam" countries,
rejecting e-mail not in english, tossing anything containing words like
p*nis/viag-ra/ref!nance, etc.
At least for the technically inclined, there probably are some things that
you can do here (with pine? - i don't know) to weed out some of the spam.
But note that effective anti-spam tends to be high-maintenance, because the
spammers keep changing their tactics in order to preserve their incomes.
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tpryan
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response 41 of 71:
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Aug 17 15:07 UTC 2003 |
Can anything be done on a high percentage of < or > in relationship
to the entire character count? Or high use of <!-- ?
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scott
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response 42 of 71:
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Aug 20 12:43 UTC 2003 |
Not sure if it's viruses or spam, but all of a sudden I've started getting
bogus "your email could not be delivered" messages from addresses I've never
sent email to.
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remmers
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response 43 of 71:
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Aug 20 13:38 UTC 2003 |
Same here.
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goose
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response 44 of 71:
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Aug 20 14:36 UTC 2003 |
My wifes office gets hundreds of those a day. It's a real problem with
no real solution other than careful filtering.
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rcurl
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response 45 of 71:
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Aug 20 15:22 UTC 2003 |
Aren't those the result of viruses sending e-mail using your address from
address files in other people's computers? I get those every couple of
weeks or so.
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gull
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response 46 of 71:
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Aug 20 15:39 UTC 2003 |
There's been a big rush of them lately because W32.SoBig.F is spreading
very rapidly. A friend of mine has been getting over 400 copies of the
virus a day.
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goose
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response 47 of 71:
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Aug 20 18:05 UTC 2003 |
RE#45 -- I think so. Folks at michigangroup.com and some k12 system in
Virginia must have really lousy virus scanning tools.
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tod
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response 48 of 71:
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Aug 20 18:58 UTC 2003 |
This response has been erased.
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scott
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response 49 of 71:
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Aug 20 20:23 UTC 2003 |
Wow, you mean it works on Linux as well as Windows?
Actually, these seem to be coming from a mailing list I'm on, so it's likely
somebody else (who? mostly Mac zealots) on the list is infected.
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