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mvpel
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response 25 of 169:
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Jul 6 18:34 UTC 2003 |
And from the July 6 Haaretz news ticker:
09:06 Senior PA official: If Israel doesn`t decide in principle to release
all detainees, PA will withdraw from roadmap
"Detainees" being terrorist masterminds and thwarted suicide bombers.
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lk
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response 26 of 169:
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Jul 7 06:53 UTC 2003 |
The irony, of course, is that the PA doesn't really want these terrorists
released, to bolster their power against that of the PA "moderates".
Israel should agree to release them once a peace treaty is concluded.
01:59 PA security source: PA forces arrest woman, 18, from Gaza as she
tried to reach Israel to carry out suicide bombing
07:21 Mubarak to meet Assad, will press Syrian leader to persuade
militant groups in Damascus to continue truce
08:05 Palestinians: PA forces arrest 3 militants who tried to place
explosives near road used by IDF in southern Gaza
08:14 Sources in defense establishment worried by reports Hamas stepping
up production of Qassam rockets
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klg
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response 27 of 169:
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Jul 7 16:12 UTC 2003 |
Have the released terrorists and murderers promised to be nice?
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lk
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response 28 of 169:
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Jul 11 08:41 UTC 2003 |
Lynne is in charge of the nice school. (:
(She is soooo nice! I just love killing her with kindness.)
Yesterday's news:
11:06 IDF soldiers find explosive device near Rafah, on Egyptian border;
sappers safely detonate device
13:02 IDF finds and safely detonates seven pipe bombs and several
weapons in village south of Nablus
14:10 IDF troops find seven pipe bombs, ammunition in village of Einbos,
near West Bank city of Nablus
14:15 Palestinian Authority orders all media outlets under its control
to cease airing incitement broadcasts
About time! I believe Arafat committed to doing this in the October 2000
Sharm Agreement.
16:10 Saudi paper quotes Arafat aides telling Abbas: ``After 55 year of
national struggle you turned us into terrorists
Not sure I follow that. Is the meaning that by finally renouncing terrorism
now, the last 55 years of "national struggle" are delegitimized as terrorism?
18:13 Hamas, Islamic Jihad turn down Egypt`s request to extend cease-fire
to period of six months
Hmmmm. Do I have to say it?
Why not?
Are they just using this period to re-arm while their motive continues to
be the disruption of the peace process and the destruction of Israel?
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polytarp
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response 29 of 169:
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Jul 11 09:39 UTC 2003 |
No.
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pvn
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response 30 of 169:
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Jul 15 06:03 UTC 2003 |
Likely.
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aaron
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response 31 of 169:
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Jul 16 01:08 UTC 2003 |
Why aren't these items more honestly titled, "Propaganda, mindlessly
regurgitated by Leeron"? Just a suggestion.
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polytarp
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response 32 of 169:
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Jul 16 05:08 UTC 2003 |
HI AARON!
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mvpel
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response 33 of 169:
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Jul 16 18:17 UTC 2003 |
Thursday, July 10:
14:15 Palestinian Authority orders all media outlets under its control
to cease airing incitement broadcasts
A broadcast on Palestinian Authority television on Sunday, July 14:
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The killing of Jews is a mandatory religious obligation established by Islam's
founder Muhammad, according to a Muslim academic who spoke on Palestinian
Authority television.
"Muhammad said in his Hadith: "The Hour [Day of Resurrection] will not arrive
until you fight the Jews, [until a Jew will hide behind a rock or tree] and
the rock and the tree will say: 'Oh Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew
behind me, come and kill him!'" said Hassan Khader, founder of the Al Quds
Encyclopedia.
Khader spoke during a lecture, broadcast Sunday, on what he describes as the
war of the Jews against Palestinian "trees."
The program was monitored by Palestinian Media Watch, or PMW, an Israel-based
group.
PMW director Itamar Marcus says Khader's statement was one of many instances
in recent years of Palestinian religious leaders teaching publicly that this
Hadith part of Islamic traditions attributed to Muhammad is a current
obligation of Islam.
Marcus says these teachings challenge the common belief that the premise for
negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians is over borders.
"Palestinian religious and academic leaders publicly teach that the
Israel-Palestinian conflict is part of Islam's irreconcilable religious war
against the Jews," he says.
"To justify this view," he adds, "Palestinians repeatedly cite Islamic sources
to demand as religious doctrine, that Jews be hated, even demanding the
killing of Jews as the will of Allah."
Marcus says "the continued expression of this PA worldview is most ominous."
"For by depicting redemption as dependent on Muslims' murder of Jews, the
murder of Jews is being presented as mandatory religious obligation," he says.
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rcurl
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response 34 of 169:
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Jul 16 23:12 UTC 2003 |
One easily obtains the impression from this, and like instances elsewhere
and at other times, that religions are sick.
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lk
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response 35 of 169:
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Jul 17 05:26 UTC 2003 |
18:24 PA finance minister signs deal for $20 million in direct U.S. aid
to rebuild municipal infrastructure in West Bank, Gaza
18:42 Palestinian PM Mahmoud Abbas says will meet President George W. Bush
in Washington on July 25
20:56 PA Information Minister Nabil Amr: PA to make efforts to persuade
various factions to extend cease-fire
21:11 Jibril Rajoub, former PA security chief in West Bank: PM Abbas is
subordinate to Chairman Arafat
21:56 PA Intelligence Chief Tawfik Tirawi denies any PA role in finding
and rescuing abducted Israeli [cabbie] Eliyahu Gurel [who was
rescued yesterday after being kidnapped by his fare to Ramallah]
22:12 Hamas leader Rantissi dismisses suggestion of indefinitely
extending cease-fire by militant groups as `dreams`
23:00 Palestinians open fire at IDF post in Gush Katif area of Gaza Strip
23:13 Palestinian sources say 14-year-old killed in West Bank city of
Nablus, likely while preparing explosive device
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polytarp
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response 36 of 169:
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Jul 17 07:06 UTC 2003 |
NO, lk. You're supposed to enter this in the "News from Illegally Occupied
Palestine" item.
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lk
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response 37 of 169:
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Jul 19 04:14 UTC 2003 |
That reminds, polyt, that you never answered my questions relevant to
determining if the Israeli administration of the disputed territories
is illegal or even an "occupation".
> Aside from the British Mandate in that name, when was there ever an
> Arab state of "Palestine"? When was the last time Arabs controlled
> this land and what was its status?
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lk
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response 38 of 169:
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Jul 19 15:10 UTC 2003 |
13:49 [Arab] Militants abduct Palestinian governor of West Bank town of
Jenin, witnesses and militant leader say
16:18 PA Minister Nabil Amr condemns kidnapping of acting Jenin district
governor Haider Irsheid by Palestinian militants
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/319680.html
Eyewitnesses said gunmen pulled 50-year-old Irsheid from his van
and beat him with their hands and gun butts before bundling him
into another vehicle and driving off toward the city's refugee camp.
The local leader of the Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade, Zakariye Zubeydi,
said the group was holding Irsheid and accused the acting governor of
being an Israeli collaborator who "has been involved in many crimes
against our people." Zubeydi demanded that the PA put Irsheid on trial.
A Palestinian security source said the militants had been angered
when Palestinian security forces in Jenin were sent to arrest an
Al Aqsa gunman in the refugee camp.
Al Aqsa has been blamed for several small-scale attacks on Israelis
since the main Palestinian militant groups declared the temporary
cease-fire on June 29.
Zubeydi said Palestinian security officials had asked, on behalf of
Arafat, for Irsheid's release.... "We respect Arafat and his orders,
but this guy must be held accountable and put on trial for his
crimes," he said. "He's in good condition, we're not torturing him."
17:43 Palestinian militants release Palestinian governor of Jenin,
Haider Irsheid, after holding him for five hours
Hmmm. Too bad Arafat never spoke out, over 2.5 years, against the terrorism,
in an attempt to use his influence to end the violence.
Can't remember if I mentioned it, but the other day residents of Nablus
marched in protest of abuse heaped on them by similar militants:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-2918615,00.html
PALESTINIANS DEMONSTRATE AGAINST VIOLENCE
By MOHAMMED DARAGHMEH
Thursday July 17, 2003 7:29 PM
Hundreds of Palestinians demonstrated in Nablus against violence by
armed men after gunmen shot and killed a young mother and a teenager
died in an explosion.
Three gunmen went into a pharmacy to abduct another man. On the way
out, witnesses said, one of the gunmen fired randomly on the street,
killing Amnah Abu Hiljah, 36, who was holding her 2- month-old baby.
In the second incident, a 14-year-old boy was killed when a bomb he
was playing with exploded, security officials said, adding that the
device was like those planted on... roads against Israeli vehicles.
A protester who identified himself only by his first name, Hassan,
said: ``The people must rise up against them, because all of them
are responsible for the mess in this city.''
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other
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response 39 of 169:
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Jul 19 19:07 UTC 2003 |
The tide begins to turn... ?
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lk
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response 40 of 169:
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Jul 21 04:22 UTC 2003 |
I certainly hope so.
13:06 Defense Minister Mofaz tells cabinet terror groups in Gaza Strip
equipping themselves with Qassam rockets
13:12 DFLP in Gaza Strip says PA forces arrested three members over
weekend, demands their immediate release
16:55 Palestinian Authority outlaws groups that incite violence and agitate
for change through force
It only took them 10 years, but they finally did it. Perhaps the next step
will be to finally amend the PLO Covenant (which rejects non-violent means)
as Arafat committed to do at Oslo and pretended to do when Clinton visited
Gaza in ~1996.
Now I'm curious. What do people -- who first were silent when the PA Police
did nothing to maintain order and allowed terrorist groups to attack Israel
with impunity, and who then claimed that the PA couldn't act because Israel
had retaliated by attacking usually empty PP offices (it had issued warnings
so people had time to vacate the building) -- what do you think now?
How can it be that we see the PA Police successfully operating against
terrorists within days of a cease-fire?
Has anything changed in Israel?
No. Sharon was re-elected.
Has anything changed within the PA?
You bet. Arafat has been effectively replaced by Abbas.
Part of a reform process that became possible with Arafats military defeat
last year in Israels spring counter-offensive.
Imagine if Arafat had implemented the Sharm Agreement of October 2000.
Could this cease-fire have been instituted 2.5 years and 3000 lives ago?
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klg
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response 41 of 169:
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Jul 21 17:07 UTC 2003 |
"Arafat has been effectively replaced by Abbas." ???
Effectively? Not evident so far.
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lk
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response 42 of 169:
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Jul 23 05:39 UTC 2003 |
I'm thinking ahead. Arafat still weilds a lot of power and influence,
but with every passing day.... With Abbas due in Washington this week,
his stature as the de facto leader will take an important step forward.
I'm thinking ahead (OK, I meant to say essentially).
Arafat still weilds a lot of power and influence, but with every passing
day, and with Abbas due in Washington this week, his stature as the de
facto leader will take an important step forward.
From the swords into plow-shares department:
00:30 Toys and other items found on [Palestinian] Karine-A gun-running
ship to be handed to UNRWA for distribution to Palestinian children
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gull
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response 43 of 169:
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Jul 23 14:25 UTC 2003 |
Antitrust trouble brewing for Microsoft in Israel
By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco
Posted: 23/07/2003 at 09:52 GMT
Israel's antitrust director has been blasted for dragging his feet over
declaring Microsoft a monopoly.
In May last year Oded Lavi, of the 'Online Freedom Foundation' asked to
declare Microsoft Israel a monopoly. Israel has anti-competitive
legislation which alerts regulators to any vendor with over 50 per cent
market share. Lavi claims that he has received no response from the
Antitrust directorate general Dror Strum. An adjuication would open the
door to a flood of complaints from Macintosh users.
Last year The Register highlighted how Microsoft had snubbed Arabic and
Hebrew users on the Macintosh platform. An adjudication from Strum could
open the floodgates for litigation from frustrated Apple users in Israel
who argue that Microsoft has frozen Apple Computer out of the Israeli
market.
Lavi's suit names Israel's Attorney General and Minister of Finance -
but not (or at least not yet) Apple CEO Steve Jobs whose neglect of
supporting the ancient languages of Arabic and Hebrew on the Macintosh
has caused great dismay in the cradle of civilization.
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other
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response 44 of 169:
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Jul 23 14:32 UTC 2003 |
If that is an excerpt it is lacking in clarifying detail, and if it is
the entire article, it is really badly written.
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klg
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response 45 of 169:
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Jul 23 16:07 UTC 2003 |
We wonder who, exactly, this Mr. Lavi may be. Our Google search on his
name found exactly two results. Thus, it would seem, he has little
credibility in doing any "blasting."
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gull
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response 46 of 169:
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Jul 23 19:31 UTC 2003 |
Yes, it's the full article, and yes, it's not very informative. You
want I should hide it?
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russ
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response 47 of 169:
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Jul 24 03:51 UTC 2003 |
Geez. I was intimately involved in Hebrew language support for
a database system <mumble> years ago, when there was no standard
for such things. Now we have Unicode, but Microsoft is failing
to support it. Go figure.
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scott
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response 48 of 169:
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Jul 24 12:13 UTC 2003 |
Failing to support Hebrew on their Macintosh apps. Windows supports Hebrew.
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polytarp
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response 49 of 169:
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Jul 24 16:13 UTC 2003 |
Leer-on, if you're so hep for the UN, why do you support the country, Israel,
which has broken the largest number of UN Security Council resolutions?
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