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sj2
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response 25 of 92:
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Jun 25 09:37 UTC 2003 |
Re.13 "I had a conversation this last week with a jewish Rabbi who had
just come back from Canada to bless some animals for slaughter."
Heh, whats to bless there? The being is going to die. A blessing is
supposed to be for your good. Or do they bless that the dead animal's
soul will go to heaven.
If you have to kill something just kill it. Eeeeooowww!! Why do you
have to slit its throat and watch it die????? Some ancient enemity
between humans and chicken?
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novomit
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response 26 of 92:
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Jun 25 11:35 UTC 2003 |
Sadistic pleasure.
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gull
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response 27 of 92:
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Jun 25 13:47 UTC 2003 |
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gull
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response 28 of 92:
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Jun 25 13:47 UTC 2003 |
Re #25: Revenge for breeding new influenza viruses.
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jazz
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response 29 of 92:
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Jun 25 13:50 UTC 2003 |
Blessing animals (or thanking them) before eating them is a pretty
common ritual in a number of religions, usually to prevent the spirits of the
animals from seeking vengeance. That might've been where it came from.
Blessing prepared food is pretty common, too.
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tod
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response 30 of 92:
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Jun 25 16:13 UTC 2003 |
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gelinas
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response 31 of 92:
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Jun 25 17:44 UTC 2003 |
Uh, the story I heard was that every meal, especially meals of meat, was
shared with Divinity.
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tod
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response 32 of 92:
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Jun 25 17:50 UTC 2003 |
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dcat
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response 33 of 92:
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Jun 25 18:17 UTC 2003 |
Is Divine dead? I did not know that. . . .
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tod
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response 34 of 92:
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Jun 25 18:47 UTC 2003 |
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naftee
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response 35 of 92:
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Jun 26 01:27 UTC 2003 |
Affirmative.
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other
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response 36 of 92:
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Jun 26 06:17 UTC 2003 |
"Dork" is NOT the proper term for the penis of a whale, unless it has
somehow not made it into any of the reliable dictionaries on the web.
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pvn
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response 37 of 92:
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Jun 26 06:50 UTC 2003 |
The question often comes up about turning on or off lights during
shabbat. Here's what you do. First of all, you use mercury bulb
switches from a goy vendor and installed by a goy non-union electrician.
Then you have the switch turned on or off by a trained monkey, but
here's the key. It has to be a borrowed trained monkey - you can't be
the actual owner of the monkey.
There is some discussion of using motion detecting digital circuits to
replace the monkey and the goy mercury switch as it is cheaper in the
long run (gotta feed the monkeys) but this remains an open discussion
issue and will probably be settled in the next century or so. To be
safe, go for the monkey.
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keesan
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response 38 of 92:
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Jun 26 08:48 UTC 2003 |
I thought it was just that you had to have your Christian neighbor come in
and turn on the stove on Saturdays. Never heard about lights. My fanatic
upstairs neighbor while growing up (who wore sneakers on Yom Kippur rather
than leather which might be edible) thought it was okay to walk to shul but
not to drive. Maybe something related to making the horses work harder?
This all turns into something like fraternity rules - everyone does the same
silly things and belongs to the same group.
My mother dropped the no milk and meat at a meal rule after I came back from
summer camp several pounds lighter, at age 12. The Christians would eat pork
for supper and the rest of us got peanut butter sandwiches on wonder bread.
Ugh. (Sort of like the computer recycling conference where they provided
lunch - 1" of dead turkey for the carnivores, two slices of cucumber for the
rest of us in a sandwich with a bit of tomato as well).
Are there non-Halal Muslims (or people who were at least brought up Muslim?).
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klg
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response 39 of 92:
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Jun 26 16:53 UTC 2003 |
We would caution anybody against believing anything in this item
relating to ritual Jewish slaughter. That being said, we would venture
a guess that the shochet (ritual slaughterer) would say a blessing to
thank G-d for providing the animals as food for man, rather
than "blessing" the animals, per se.
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goose
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response 40 of 92:
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Jun 26 17:42 UTC 2003 |
Do you somehow have unique qualifications in ritual Jewish slaughter?
Why the fuck should we believe you over some of the others in this item
whom I know to be Jewish?
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rcurl
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response 41 of 92:
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Jun 26 18:47 UTC 2003 |
I've always been puzzled about people that tie their behavior to
presciptions that don't appear to have a basis in some practical purpose.
I've been trying to think if I follow any such rule system on anything,
but I can't think of any examples. I also don't recall ever having done so
in the past at any age. I have my likes and dislikes, and perhaps some
food fads (like generally cooking pork, but eating beef pretty raw, which
I think is tied to the once possibility of trichanosis), but as far as I
can recall I follow absolutely zero food, clothing, or behavioral
practices not founded in secular law, practicality, generally followed
social customs, or just preference. It does seem strange that this could
be the case, given the prevalence of such practices, but it seems
perfectly natural to me. Have I overlooked something? I do lay the table
with the fork, knife and spoon in the conventional locations, and do many
other things like that, but don't think that these are things that must be
done "or else" - they just make life a little easier by not having to
reinvent everything as one lives, and if I moved to a country that did it
differently, I would probably eventually adopt the local custom, it not
mattering to me one way or another (except I don't think I could eat my
peas off the back of the fork).
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tod
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response 42 of 92:
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Jun 26 18:49 UTC 2003 |
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tod
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response 43 of 92:
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Jun 26 23:27 UTC 2003 |
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gull
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response 44 of 92:
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Jun 27 13:15 UTC 2003 |
In a modern version of the story, he would then be promptly sued for
copyright infringement. ;)
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klg
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response 45 of 92:
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Jun 27 16:17 UTC 2003 |
Mr. goose,
We find your reponse, to say the least, foolish and boorish. You may
ignore us if you wish, but there is no need for such distasteful
language!
Regards,
klg
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goose
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response 46 of 92:
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Jun 27 18:58 UTC 2003 |
Foolish, hardly. Boorish, I'll accept that. However a question remains:
In what way are you uniquely qualified in topics of ritual slaughter?
To be honest though, I don't really care. I should ignore you, you annoy me.
If the reverse is true, so be it.
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mynxcat
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response 47 of 92:
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Jun 27 19:38 UTC 2003 |
Yay! Flame war!!
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tod
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response 48 of 92:
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Jun 27 21:05 UTC 2003 |
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klg
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response 49 of 92:
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Jun 28 00:59 UTC 2003 |
Now, having had the opportunity to consult our home library, we find
that: "the shochet recites the blessing 'who has hallowed us by thy
commandments and commanded us regarding ritual slaughter.'"
A Guide to Jewish Religious Practice, Rabbi Isaac Klein, JTSA, NY 1979.
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