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response 25 of 89:
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Sep 7 22:43 UTC 2003 |
IHB diesel fuel is about 30 cents cheaper than gas right now.
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glenda
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response 26 of 89:
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Sep 7 22:59 UTC 2003 |
We just filled up the tank in Findlay, OH at $1.54/gal, there were places at
$1.53 but we didn't feel like fighting traffic to get to the other side of
the street. Spending all day on your feet at a Ham radio swap will do that
to you. We noticed that the first gas station after we passed the Michigan
state line was $1.79. It was still $1.54 on the Ohio side.
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gelinas
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response 27 of 89:
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Sep 8 00:35 UTC 2003 |
I realised how bad off we were in I saw gas at $1.76/gal and thought, "What
a bargain." I know better.
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drew
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response 28 of 89:
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Sep 8 05:54 UTC 2003 |
The derivative seems to be well under the zero mark now, at least.
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albaugh
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response 29 of 89:
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Sep 12 17:30 UTC 2003 |
The Clark station in Plymouth listed Unleaded at $1.59, but then it seems to
have gone out of business (it might be getting taken over by Sunoco).
Today I paid $1.69 in a Sunoco in Westland that used to be Clark.
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rcurl
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response 30 of 89:
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Sep 12 17:42 UTC 2003 |
Clark closed a large number of stations, or rather sold them to new
managers, some of which I have never heard of before.
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keesan
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response 31 of 89:
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Sep 12 23:35 UTC 2003 |
Jim says he is now spending as much as $1/month on gasoline taking me to the
hospital twice a week. I hope eventually to be back on a bike. Normally he
only has to buy gasoline once a year (for two trips to Detroit). How does
the average American's gasoline bill compare to what is spent on food (some
of which is also subsidized, esp. if you eat cows).
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klg
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response 32 of 89:
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Sep 13 01:27 UTC 2003 |
Plan on the car for quite a while.
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goose
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response 33 of 89:
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Sep 13 04:39 UTC 2003 |
Sindi would freak at my monthly petrol bill....
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slynne
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response 34 of 89:
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Sep 13 08:56 UTC 2003 |
I probably spent $30-$40 a month on gas
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gelinas
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response 35 of 89:
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Sep 13 12:52 UTC 2003 |
(So far this year, I've spent $804.02 on gas: $493.77 for the Saturn and
$310.25 for the van.)
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keesan
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response 36 of 89:
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Sep 13 14:13 UTC 2003 |
What we find strange is when people build expensive large houses 50 miles from
where they work, which are designed to use minimal energy (solar, etc.) and
then use more energy getting there than in heating a house in town. A friend
of ours interested in zero-energy houses (they generate as much as they use,
or more, he has a windmill and solar panels), lives 12 miles from town and
drives it every day while his wife commutes to the Detroit area to teach about
how to use less energy in architecture. This is temporary (for the past 30
years or so) until they move to an intentional community (where he will still
probably have to drive everywhere). They have not bothered to insulate their
farm house since it is temporary (they heat it anyway) but the refrigerator
runs off the solar panels. People focus on one thing at a time.
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katie
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response 37 of 89:
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Sep 13 18:19 UTC 2003 |
I spend about $10 per day on gas.
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happyboy
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response 38 of 89:
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Sep 13 23:59 UTC 2003 |
i have gas right now.
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lowclass
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response 39 of 89:
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Sep 14 01:46 UTC 2003 |
...and I have plenty I'm willing to share.
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tod
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response 40 of 89:
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Sep 14 06:42 UTC 2003 |
This response has been erased.
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keesan
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response 41 of 89:
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Sep 14 15:45 UTC 2003 |
Jim is spending $4/week on parking at the hospital when he gives me rides
there and stays all day. And $1/month for the gasoline to get there. The
wheelchair use is free.
What would it have to cost for gasoline before people would take the proposed
new train from Ann Arbor to Lansing instead of driving? Let's assume $10
round trip for the train (or was there also a proposed ticket cost?).
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cmcgee
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response 42 of 89:
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Sep 14 17:10 UTC 2003 |
Actually, the Lansing transit authority dropped the idea for that train about
a year ago. Preliminary estimates of the cost to run it compared to the
number of trips people said they were interested in taking it were just too
high. And mind you, that's what people _siad_ they were interested in, not
what they would actually do. In transit people usually express far more
interest in theory than they demonstrate once the service is in place.
In this case, people didn't even express interest in the service.
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lynne
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response 43 of 89:
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Sep 14 17:41 UTC 2003 |
I fill my tank whenever it says it's empty (but it generally has at least
3-4 gallons left), which probably averages once every 3-4 weeks. It's a
small tank, though, so it runs me about $10-15.
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slynne
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response 44 of 89:
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Sep 14 18:56 UTC 2003 |
The population in SE Michigan is just too spread out to make a train
like that worth while. Plus commuter trains only work well if there is
good public transportation at one's destination.
Gas would have to get really expensive, like over $10 a gallon, before
I would be willing to take the bus to work if the fares and schedules
remain what they are now but, of course, if gas prices were to rise so
would the bus fares. On the other hand, if gas prices were to get to
$10 a gallon, there would be a lot more people taking the bus so they
might have more convenient schedules which would increase the liklihood
of me taking the bus.
If gas prices were to get to $5 a gallon, I would probably try to
carpool. I also would considier replacing my car with a hybrid or I
might consider buying a moped or something.
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gelinas
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response 45 of 89:
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Sep 14 20:07 UTC 2003 |
A few years back, my car would be deadlined from September to December
(while waiting for me to come up with the scratch to repair it). I found
it just as fast to walk from Arborland to downtown as to wait for the
convenience of AATA. Since AATA doesn't service Scio Township, I also found
it just as fast to walk from Zeeb to downtown. And before that, the trip
from Arborland to Plymouth Road Mall went as fast on foot as on the bus.
I realised that I can get anywhere in Ann Arbor on foot in two hours,
which is about what it takes to meet the bus schedule and ride all over
everywhere to get any where.
Until public transportation can offer what *I* consider a reasonable
schedule, never mind fare, I'll walk or drive myself.
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slynne
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response 46 of 89:
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Sep 14 21:01 UTC 2003 |
It takes me an hour door-to-door to get from my house to work via the
bus which is from Ypsi to Ann Arbor so it isnt too bad as far as AATA
goes. However, it is 4 times longer than it takes me to drive.
It is too bad this area cant support a rapid transit system. I mean, if
there were some way to get from my house to work via public
transportation in 1/2 hour rather than 1 hour, I would probably do it
now even though it would double my commute time.
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russ
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response 47 of 89:
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Sep 14 22:21 UTC 2003 |
If it was my commute, I'd have to figure the time and hassle to
get from home to the train station and back at both ends. If
it was more than 10 minutes or so to walk, the time for the
train would probably equal or exceed the time to drive; so long
as time is my most precious asset, that would weigh heavily.
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keesan
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response 48 of 89:
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Sep 14 23:28 UTC 2003 |
Jim says he can bike to Ypsi faster than the bus. His housemate (6'5") used
to do it in 45 minutes door to door. No waiting time. Some time in the next
few years there is supposed to be a bike path from A2 to Ypsi that should cut
the time considerably as you don't have to wait for as many cars to get out
of the way so you can continue. I probably bike only about 2 miles an hour
in downtown Ann Arbor and maybe 4 in the near suburbs because of cars.
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happyboy
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response 49 of 89:
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Sep 15 00:22 UTC 2003 |
i can vouch for that. i use to bike from the hosp area to
downtown ypsi in about 45 min instead of taking the bus
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