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Grex > Agora46 > #14: News from Illegally Occupied Palestine | |
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mynxcat
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response 25 of 72:
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Jun 25 17:00 UTC 2003 |
Because the Pakistanis supposedly were going to help the US find Bin
Laden. Can't let that go unrewarded
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jmsaul
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response 26 of 72:
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Jun 25 17:02 UTC 2003 |
And because it wasn't the policy of the Pakistani government, nor did it
reflect the majority opinion of Pakistanis necessarily. (Which is also true
for the photos of Palestinians cheering -- it wasn't a widespread thing.)
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gull
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response 27 of 72:
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Jun 25 17:21 UTC 2003 |
Re #15: So you'd be okay with, say, the police deciding to end a car
chase in your neighborhood with air-to-ground missiles? I mean, as long
as they get the bad guy the collateral damage is okay, right?
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tod
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response 28 of 72:
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Jun 25 17:34 UTC 2003 |
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sabre
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response 29 of 72:
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Jun 25 19:13 UTC 2003 |
to #26 yes if they actually help
to #26 wasn't widepsread you say? sure seemed so to me. At least as far as
"widespread can get in a nation that size. As for policy of the Pakistani
goverment well....I was referring to Palestine.Of course it's not there
"official" policy...that political suicide...you can bet your ass that it's
an "unofficial" policy however. Why else have we been pushing to get Arafat
out of power. I'm telling you these people hate our guts and we love to see
us all die. And that my friend it the Majority opinion in Palestine.
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tod
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response 30 of 72:
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Jun 25 19:29 UTC 2003 |
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gull
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response 31 of 72:
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Jun 25 19:42 UTC 2003 |
Re #29: When you watch news footage of protests and demonstrations in
the Middle East, you have to remember that people there have perfected
the art of filling in the field of view of a TV camera. What looks on
camera like a massive protest may have empty street on either side of it.
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sabre
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response 32 of 72:
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Jun 25 20:09 UTC 2003 |
That of course is very true. A perfect example was the crowds shown cheering
Saddam when they were under attack. As a matter of fact they didn't even do
too good a job in that case. It was obvious. In Paletine's case however I
think you'll find the general view is that America is the great satan and
should be destroyed.You have to remember that they blame us for supporting
Israel and beleive we are the only reason that it even exists.Your statement
is akin to saying that most Palestinains don't hate Israel.If fact they do.
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oval
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response 33 of 72:
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Jun 25 20:23 UTC 2003 |
we are the only reason israel exists.
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mynxcat
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response 34 of 72:
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Jun 25 20:41 UTC 2003 |
If that is the case, it's easy to see why the Palestinians have so
much animosity toward Americans
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tod
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response 35 of 72:
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Jun 25 21:03 UTC 2003 |
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lk
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response 36 of 72:
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Jun 25 21:26 UTC 2003 |
Egads, the Jews are blamed for everything else....
Phil, aside from the British Mandate in that name, when was there ever
an Arab state of "Palestine"? When was the last time Arabs controlled
this land and what was their status? Do you want me to answer my own
questions?
> Re #15: So you'd be okay with, say, the police deciding to end a car
> chase in your neighborhood with air-to-ground missiles? I mean, as long
> as they get the bad guy the collateral damage is okay, right?
Of all the brain-dead comparisons!
If that "driver" happens to be a suicide bomber who was about to blow
himself up at Whole Foods, or if this was during war-time and the "driver"
was someone who dispatched waves of suicide bombers to attack and murder
innocent civilians, then I think that the police have an obligation to
do what they can to prevent that act from being perpetrated.
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tod
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response 37 of 72:
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Jun 25 21:34 UTC 2003 |
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jazz
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response 38 of 72:
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Jun 25 22:41 UTC 2003 |
Well that's a pretty clear cut case of (x people will die) versus (x+y
people will die). A pretty easy call.
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tod
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response 39 of 72:
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Jun 25 22:42 UTC 2003 |
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naftee
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response 40 of 72:
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Jun 26 01:24 UTC 2003 |
re 36 who areyou calling "Phil"?
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oval
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response 41 of 72:
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Jun 26 01:36 UTC 2003 |
look at all this news from palestine coming in!
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jazz
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response 42 of 72:
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Jun 26 04:52 UTC 2003 |
Todd: re: flight 97 (or was it 87)? The passengers in that plane
were already dead.
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gull
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response 43 of 72:
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Jun 26 13:33 UTC 2003 |
Re #36: I'd say there's a big difference between someone who you know is
on the verge of carrying out an actual attack, and someone who you
believe might help plan one in the future. In the latter case, it seems
to me that it'd be more prudent to wait for them to be in a less heavily
populated area. Unless, of course, you believe that the lives of the
civilians around them don't matter.
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lk
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response 44 of 72:
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Jun 26 18:04 UTC 2003 |
Perhaps if the terrorists cared about these civilians they wouldn't hide
amongst them, wouldn't establish bomb-factories in civilian apartment
blocks, wouldn't recruit them as disposable suicide bombers.
Again, these are not people who "might" one-day engage in attacks, these
are people who are involved on a daily basis in planning terrorist attacks.
In recruiting, training, arming and dispatching murderers whose only
intention is to kill as many innocent civilians as possible.
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naftee
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response 45 of 72:
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Jun 27 04:16 UTC 2003 |
ATTACK!
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sabre
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response 46 of 72:
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Jun 27 11:16 UTC 2003 |
RE:#44
I agree totally. I will also go far as to say that if these "innocent"
civilians allow such scum to hide among them without contacting the proper
authorities then they make themselves guilty by association.That makes them
deserving of the same retribution.And don't say "they CAN'T snitch them out
thier lives would be in jeopordy" Blah..blah..blah.That's a lame excuse. The
truth is these "civilains" as you call them are in TOTAL agreement with the
murdering scum.I have no sympathy for them whatsoever.I make sure a do a
little DANCE everytime one of them is served his just dessert.
LONG LIVE ISRAEL!!!!!! may her enemies ROT.(and no I'm not jewish)
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gull
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response 47 of 72:
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Jun 27 13:08 UTC 2003 |
Ah, good old "guilt by association".
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naftee
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response 48 of 72:
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Jun 27 16:09 UTC 2003 |
re 46
sabre, are you an air cadet?
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pvn
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response 49 of 72:
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Jun 28 08:40 UTC 2003 |
It really doesn't matter that the late 19th Century (a christian term)
colonization of the region in question was conducted by Europeans who
had no less and no more of a "right" and happened to share a little
comonality with a few residents that happened to already be there and
whom they demonstrably looked down on at the time and currently. It
doesn't matter that the major paymasters of such are themselves even
less legitimate holders of the land they colonized. (The USA taxpayers
for the stupid who pay for the whole schtick by and large) It all
doesn't matter. The facts of the boots on the ground are that the
current state known as Israel owns the ground known as "the west bank"
and "gaza" outright by right of conquest. Israel owns what is proposed
to be Palestine.
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