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mynxcat
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response 25 of 107:
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Jul 26 00:02 UTC 2003 |
Yeah, they should be ssh-ing so that the network sniffers won't get their
password ;)
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russ
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response 26 of 107:
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Jul 26 02:58 UTC 2003 |
Sapna said:
>Maybe you should install a telnet client.
Sapna you ignorant reading-impaired slut,
1,) It wasn't my computer, it was a rented workstation (a fact
which was noted in #12). Installing software on it was verboten,
even if it was possible. (And why should I fix someone else's
misconfiguration?)
2.) Even if I had, telnet might have been blocked at the gateway.
>(And if you don't have telnet, how did you get on to post in the systems
> problem item?>
3.) There is this little web interface to BBS. It's called Backtalk...
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cross
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response 27 of 107:
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Jul 26 03:37 UTC 2003 |
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mynxcat
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response 28 of 107:
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Jul 26 08:15 UTC 2003 |
Russ, you can turn this into Sapna bashing I don't care. I admit I misread,
and thought you meant an ISP (though the per hour rate should have raised a
flag for me). But I didn't think anyone would be desperate enough to pay
$12.00 an hour just to get on grex. But maybe that's the high-point of your
life. Who knows.
(And it's absurd that someone would allow dialling in, but not have telnet,
but that's been pointed out before.)
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jep
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response 29 of 107:
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Jul 26 12:31 UTC 2003 |
Russ, you really found a computer to rent with a modem and browser but
no telnet?
Do you think that's a common problem that Grexers have, so that it's
reasonable to expect the staff to take precautions to not strand
people in that situation?
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novomit
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response 30 of 107:
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Jul 26 14:43 UTC 2003 |
Russ, why do you insist on calling Sapna an ignorant slut when she primarily
gives you helpful suggestions? I could just as well call you a
dick-licking-stupid-ass-muther-fucka for not having the sense to instal telnet
or ssh on your home machine and getting to grex that way. By the way, if you
wanna suck my dick, email me and we can make an arrangement.
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russ
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response 31 of 107:
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Jul 27 01:08 UTC 2003 |
Re #27: Who said these machines had modems? I didn't. (I have a
modem, but modems were useless due to the terminal server outage...)
Re #29: Nope; browser but no modem (also a lot of stuff that I didn't
need right then). It was what I could get at the time with enough
connectivity to do the job. You got a problem with that?
I expect the staff to at least look at what's wrong and post
something about it (even if it's "we can't figure it out"). It
took many days for that to happen.
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cross
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response 32 of 107:
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Jul 27 02:32 UTC 2003 |
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pvn
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response 33 of 107:
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Jul 27 07:13 UTC 2003 |
has anyone told her that?
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russ
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response 34 of 107:
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Jul 27 08:44 UTC 2003 |
novomit said:
>Russ, why do you insist on calling Sapna an ignorant slut when she primarily
>gives you helpful suggestions?
novomit you ignorant slut,
Grossly incorrect presumption is anything but helpful.
>By the way, if you
>wanna suck my dick, email me and we can make an arrangement.
I've already decided that I don't care to meet you, but if you
snail-mail your dick to me I'll consider the offer.
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russ
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response 35 of 107:
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Jul 27 17:13 UTC 2003 |
Re #32 para 2: That is correct. Likely to change very soon, but
true for the moment. (I'm a stick-in-the-mud; I got on-line
before there was a public-access Internet and I haven't found it
necessary or even desirable [given certain 'sploits in the field]
to change until now.)
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cross
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response 36 of 107:
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Jul 27 21:37 UTC 2003 |
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keesan
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response 37 of 107:
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Jul 27 21:59 UTC 2003 |
Where do you get the number 6? I know 6 people who dial in and am sure there
are many more - cmg, davel, I think rcurl.
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cross
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response 38 of 107:
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Jul 27 23:52 UTC 2003 |
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keesan
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response 39 of 107:
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Jul 28 03:19 UTC 2003 |
Can you provide an exact figure?
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cross
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response 40 of 107:
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Jul 28 13:58 UTC 2003 |
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michaela
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response 41 of 107:
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Jul 28 20:52 UTC 2003 |
Regardless, it's not worth a VOLUNTEER'S time to race down there to check on
a modem for ONE person who refuses to move into the late 90's.
People... oh sorry... people like Russ keep forgetting that "volunteer" means
"when we have a spare moment to devote to you".
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pvn
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response 42 of 107:
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Jul 29 05:09 UTC 2003 |
Not only are the total number of modem users a very very small minority
of the total user population, but one can confirm by simply looking at
financial statements that modemites consume a hugely disproportionate
amount of grex's financial resources not to even mention the hidden cost
of infrastructure and support taken from the "free" time of staff
volunteers. Fortunately for the modemites, management values their
presence diproportionally to their financial contribution to the
enterprise.
If I were management I might consider looking into cutting a deal with a
local hosting/ISP to 'colocate' the majority of dialup lines and have
one official grex modem line that fails over to the ISP/hosting phone
bank on busy. Even if the cost is the same the reliability and lack of
hidden support cost is worth it. Similar to prison inmate phone systems
set up to avoid the huge cost of the official systems or the "one number
tracks you down" the telcos already have arrangements in place and
ISP/colos typically already have underutilized phone banks in place
looking for $biz. If the one official dialup goes on the fritz, take it
offhook and it rolls over and you debug it later.
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cross
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response 43 of 107:
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Jul 29 18:45 UTC 2003 |
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mynxcat
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response 44 of 107:
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Jul 29 20:19 UTC 2003 |
I don't think all 6 of those users Sindi mentioned were paid members.
So even if Grex loses all 6 of those members, the loss is going to be
less than $360.00
You're right, it doesn't make sense keeping the phone-lines around for
less than 1% of the user-base who refuse to move to the late 90s. It's
not like Grex is a M$ wanna-be, constantly upgrading to be
incompatible with last year's version. After being around for 12+
years, I think it's reasonable to expect Grex to move ahead and leave
the phone-lines behind. Hankering for the phone-lines just because you
don't want to move with the times is proving ot be disservie t oGrex,
more than anything else. Not a very nice way to treat her, is it? (Is
Grex female?)
But then what do I know :P I'm not a member of this "elite group" as
Russ put it, in Resp 1
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tod
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response 45 of 107:
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Jul 29 20:55 UTC 2003 |
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mynxcat
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response 46 of 107:
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Jul 29 21:08 UTC 2003 |
Prolly the group that still uses dialling in versus something more
modern.
Or the group of Grex members
Or on the BOD.
Any of these. Those were Russ's words. Not exactly the ones I would use
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keesan
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response 47 of 107:
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Jul 29 21:09 UTC 2003 |
I did not think grex existed for the purpose of making money, but rather for
serving its users. Dan, would you stop using the number 6 when you have no
idea how many people actually dial in? I can actually think of at least 10.
Probably two lines would be adequate. Grex is supposed to allow anyone with
any sort of a computer and a 2400 bps modem to get on the net, without also
having to pay for an ISP. Most of the people we signed up just use email and
would be perfectly happy if grex had a slower net connection to save money.
Majority rule is not appropriate here.
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keesan
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response 48 of 107:
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Jul 29 21:10 UTC 2003 |
More 'modern' is not necessarily more efficient or more convenient, and it
is usually significantly more expensive.
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tod
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response 49 of 107:
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Jul 29 21:18 UTC 2003 |
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