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25 new of 365 responses total.
ashke
response 25 of 365: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 21:22 UTC 2000

I think that is the reason that I don't have voice mail.  I don't WANT people
to call when I'm online....
orinoco
response 26 of 365: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 21:30 UTC 2000

I'm looking for PVA glue.  The only use I know of for it is in bookbinding,
and so were I in Ann Arbor, I'd go to Hollander's for it, but I'm not.  What
else is PVA glue used for?  What other sorts of store might have it?
jiffer
response 27 of 365: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 21:41 UTC 2000

You may want to see if any art supply stores will have that glue.  Many times
art suppliers are also book binding suppliers since book binding is
technically an art form and is taught in many universities' art departments.
anderyn
response 28 of 365: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 00:51 UTC 2000

I know I've seen that glue at art supply stores (you could also try Michaels
Craft stores, since they seem to carry a wide variety of craft/art supplies)
other
response 29 of 365: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 01:01 UTC 2000

Poly Vinyl Acetate? 
birdy
response 30 of 365: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 01:06 UTC 2000

Ashke - you would rather have them get a busy signal than leave a message so
you can call them back?  It's really nice and handy, and I'm grateful when
I call friends who have it.  That way I can get them the message without
calling them every ten minutes.

What ticks me off completely is that A Merry Wreck charges us for a phone call
whenever someone leaves a message.  Now, if that person uses A Merry Wreck,
they also get charged for the call.  So, A Merry Wreck makes double the money
on a single phone call.  Bastards.  
scg
response 31 of 365: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 06:05 UTC 2000

And if that person doesn't use Ameritech, Ameritech gets paid a "settlement"
fee by whoever the person does use, which is considerably more than an
Ameritech customer would pay Ameritech to make a phone call.  That said, are
you really getting more than 400 voice mail messages per month?

I still use an answering machine because I like being able to screen calls
through it, although most of my calls these days seem to come in on my cell
phone which does have voice mail.  I figure that if somebody really needs to
get ahold of me and my line is busy, if they're important enough they probably
know my cell phone number and can call that.
birdy
response 32 of 365: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 06:11 UTC 2000

We get roughly four calls on voice mail per day.  Multiplied by 30 days,
that's 120 calls we *didn't* make but count toward our 400 limit.  They
consider it voice mail service fees...okay, so then what's this fee we're
paying every month under "Voice Mail Charge"?  

Ooh...I wish people could choose their phone provider instead of having a
default for the area...
mooncat
response 33 of 365: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 13:56 UTC 2000

Caller ID can be used to screen calls. <grins> And Sarah and I have 
been known to use it for that purpose from time to time.  Not all that 
often because there aren't all that many phone calls I'm avoiding.  
Besides, I can always take a message for myself, given 'Anne Perry' is 
rarely home. 
albaugh
response 34 of 365: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 15:12 UTC 2000

Is there a way in vi to use the s (substitute) command to add/delete tabs or
newlines?  \t and \n are not taken as controls, so that doesn't work...
mdw
response 35 of 365: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 19:18 UTC 2000

It should suffice to just press control-I or the tab key for tab - no
need to do anything magic there.  Newline is special because it's not
only the command line delimiter, but also a file line delimiter.
Searching for a newline with the substitute command is not possible;
that would imply pattern matching across lines, and if it were allowed,
would not only produce surprising results, but would be much *much*
slower.  If you really want to do that, you might want to look into
perl.  Inserting a newline with the substitute command is quite easy -
just type backslash newline.  You can't do this from within visual mode,
you have to get back into command line mode (Q from visual mode) before
you can do this.  Another command you may want to investigate is "join"
- which glues lines together and so effectively removes newlines.  You
might be able to join lines together that you care about, do your
pattern matching, then split them up again.
jep
response 36 of 365: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 19:44 UTC 2000

Within vi, you can use CTRL-V, then a special character, such as a 
carriage return, tab or whatever.

:g/^V^M/s///g     -- removes all carriage returns from your file
                     (press CTRL-V, then CTRL^M or carriage return,
                      don't type a ^ then a V)

:g/^V^I/s//^V^M/g -- converts all tabs to carriage returns

I hope that helps.
drew
response 37 of 365: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 20:05 UTC 2000

Re #32:
    I'm seeing commercials for non-Ameritech local phone service companies
nowadays.
mcnally
response 38 of 365: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 20:56 UTC 2000

  re #35:  combining #35 and 36 for an ugly kludge, if you *really* need
  to pattern match across lines, you can use three substitutions -- one to
  change all of the newline characters in your file to some other character
  you're sure doesn't exist elsewhere in the file (there are lots of control
  characters that are usually safe choices..), a second to achieve the
  substitution you want, and a third to change the modified newlines back
  to newlines..

  Note that that'll only work on either extremely small files in most
  original vis, which have a very limited line size..  Newer vi variants
  (nvi, vim, etc..) can handle much longer lines..
richard
response 39 of 365: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 06:37 UTC 2000

caller id only works if the person calling you doenst dial *67and
block it-- which brings into question the value of theservice
scg
response 40 of 365: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 06:47 UTC 2000

Well, even then it tells you that the person calling is somebody who doesn't
want to be identified, which is some information.  If you're using it to trap
somebody who really doesn't want to into giving you their phone number, that
may make it not so useful to you.  If you just generally like to know who's
calling before picking up the phone, it's not such an issue and you can
certainly decide not to answer such calls.
jerryr
response 41 of 365: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 14:48 UTC 2000

i only answer calls i can identify.  "unavailable" calls are handled by my
answer machine.  invariably they are computer generated.
twinkie
response 42 of 365: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 19:29 UTC 2000

Same here, except I took it a step further and got Privacy Manager.
Except for calls coming from my office, or my mom's office, there aren't any
calls I get from unidentified numbers. So when Privacy Manager kicks in, if
it's not a recording of my mom cursing Privacy Manager, I deny the call.

Interestingly enough, Ameritech always seems to get through, when they're
trying to sell me something. The CID comes over as AMERITECH with a phone
number. I always get caught, making sure there isn't any sort of problem. And
every damn time, it's been someone trying to sell me a RangeMax phone.
(Despite the fact that I've already purchased one from them)

jerryr
response 43 of 365: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 01:01 UTC 2000

that was the rap on privacy manager.  i believe if you ask they will take you
off their call list.

what does someone hear when they call you?
twinkie
response 44 of 365: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 09:31 UTC 2000

<ameritech jingle> The number you are calling has Privacy Manager, a caller
ID service. And your number is not identified. At the tone, say your name,
or the name of the company you represent, and your call will be completed.
<beep>

From there, my phone will ring, and CallerID will say "privacy manager". When
I pick up the phone, it says "Ameritech Privacy Manager. To continue, press
1." (so, I press 1) "You have an incoming call from <recorded name>. To accept
the call, press 1. To deny the call, press 2. To play a sales call refusal,
press 3." The whole time this is happening, the caller hears "Still trying."
every 15 seconds.

If I press 1, the call (obviously) goes through after both parties hear "now
connecting". If I press 2, the caller hears "The number you are calling is
not available. Please try your call later." If I press 3, the caller hears
"This number does not accept sales calls. Please add this number to your 'do
not call' list"

Of course, that's not evil enough for me. 

If you have a blocked number, and try to call me, you get the whole Privacy
Manager deal...but if I'm not home, or if I choose not to answer the phone,
you'll get dumped in to voicemail. So...after dealing with Privacy Manager,
it'll say "now connecting to a voice answering system". Then you get "The
number you have reached 2-4-m-y-n-u-m-b-e-r is not available. To leave a
message for (recorded) Kevin Nicholls, press 1. To leave a message for
(recording of my girlfriend's voice), press 2. To leave a message for
2-4-m-y-n-u-m-b-e-r, press 3, or wait for the tone."

Now, assuiming you have patience of steel, and pressed 1, you still have to
hear "Hi, this is Kevin, and you've reached my voicemail. Please leave a brief
message, including your name, phone number, and purpose of your call -- and
I'll get back to you."

keesan
response 45 of 365: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 10:34 UTC 2000

This setup would presumably still record computer-generated sales pitches.
jerryr
response 46 of 365: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 11:46 UTC 2000

so, do you get many messages?

keesan
response 47 of 365: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 15:32 UTC 2000

Only two of these in the past two weeks.  They generate random numbers, as
do the auto glass companies, which don't leave messages.
scg
response 48 of 365: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 18:34 UTC 2000

I'm assuming #46 was a reply to twinkie, not keesan.

The way I look at the privacy manager stuff, it's easier to answer an
unidentified call (or let it go to the answering machine) and tell the sales
critter, if that's who it is, to go away, then to go through a menu system
to get the phone system to tell the sales critter to go away.  I'd be far more
interested in it if it kept the sales critter from bothering me in the first
place, but given that some people I do want to talk to come in as "out of
area," that's not a good piece of information to key that blocking from.
twinkie
response 49 of 365: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 22:43 UTC 2000

re: 45 -- I suppose it could, but the computer would have to know to wait
almost two munites before leaving a message.

re: 46 -- From people who have to go through Privacy Manager? No, not really.
Unless they're legitimate calls for me.

re: 48 -- I forgot to mention that you can give friends/family/work a PIN to
bypass Privacy Manager.

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