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cyberpnk
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response 25 of 49:
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Oct 20 17:11 UTC 1994 |
rrrespond
Worf probably didn't fire because he didn't want to blow up the ship,...
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zook
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response 26 of 49:
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Oct 21 23:33 UTC 1994 |
I doubt firing on stun setting would harm the ship. Even if so, it was
not exactly a difficult shot.
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kerouac
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response 27 of 49:
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Oct 26 16:56 UTC 1994 |
Kirk Lives!
Latest word is that due to Trekkie uproar, they are re-shooting the final
sequences of the movie so that Kirk doesnt die but is given some other yet to
be be revealed fate. Shatner, Patrick Stewart and th other principals were
called back to the studio a couple of weeks ago for re-shooting. Not sure of
whether this is a good sign or not. You usually dont re-shoot finished films
unless they are major turkeys. Last Trek
on a klingon warbird was a little too er.........original?
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kerouac
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response 28 of 49:
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Oct 26 16:59 UTC 1994 |
Last message got a little garbled......I was going to o say that I think
they are also editing a keysequence involving the crash landing of the
enterprise and the escape of the crew on a klingon warbird......awfully
original as I said Last Trek film they editied like this at the last minute was
ST: The MOtion Picture Enough said there....
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rtlong
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response 29 of 49:
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Oct 27 01:01 UTC 1994 |
I had heard quite a while ago (last summer, to be exact) that on Shatner's
insistence, they had changed the ending so Kirk got to live. But then in
TV Guide a week or so ago there was an interview with Shatner, and although
he was coy about whether Kirk was going to live or die, the clear implica-
tion of what he said was that Kirk was going to die. But Shatner might
have been lying to make the ending a surprise. Also, although the interview
was *published* recently, I'm not sure how long ago it was *taped.* So
we have conflicting evidence .... My money says Kirk lives, though.
Although I was kind of hoping he'd die -- I liked him in the original
series, but I've gotten sick of him in the movies.
Actually, though, this whole debate may be pointless. Even if Kirk *does*
die -- hey, this is science fiction, they could always figure out a way
of bringing him back. Remember Spock, remember Superman?
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rtlong
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response 30 of 49:
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Oct 27 01:12 UTC 1994 |
Additional note: in the episode in TNG where Picard first meets Sarek, he
says: "I met your son on the occasion of his wedding." Yet no subsequent
mention of said wedding, or the wife's whereabouts, in the later episode
where Picard meets Spock, who is living, apparently wifeless, in the
Romulan underground. Are they ever going to follow this up? Will the new
movie mention it? (Hopefully not, since so far the movies have not done
well at continuity with TNG. Consider STVI -- purple Klingin blood, although
Worf's is red; Klingon/Fed peace during time of Enterprise-A, although
TNG says not until Enterprise-C; warbirds that can fire when cloaked,
although the Romulans in TNG seem to have forgotten this improvement.
As clever Trekkers we can resolve all these inconsistencies -- but still,
it bodes ill.)
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kerouac
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response 31 of 49:
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Nov 5 22:43 UTC 1994 |
Oaky, [D[D[D
Heres the real lowdown, courstey of rec.arts.startrek.......apparently the
ending was re-fiolmed because test audiences tididnt think Kirks death was
dramatic enough or relevant enough to the film. So the seen of kirk dying
in Picards arms after being shot buy Malcolm McDowell was cut and
the new scene has Kirk falling off a cliff as a consequence of preventing bad
guy McDowell from getting what he wants......no final words from Kirk
in this cut, just a ne w more dramatic sequence.
Film still ends or still shows rather Picard burying Kirk and placing
Kirk's captain ensignia on top of the grave, so dont think he'll be back any
time soon.......
And the film still shows the Duras sisters blowing up the Entriprise D
so sthe ship wasnmt saved at the last minute either........
Still it sounds like a good movie, surely better than V or VI and if Marinka
Sirtis really has anude scenme, so much the btetter!
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gregc
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response 32 of 49:
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Nov 6 07:03 UTC 1994 |
I still think the idea of having the Enterprise get defeated *again*, by
a klingon ship is getting really tired and overused. They already did
this in the third movie.
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verbal
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response 33 of 49:
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Nov 6 22:12 UTC 1994 |
This is coming out a day before my birthday. Too damn bad I have to work. :(
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pegasus
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response 34 of 49:
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Nov 15 15:46 UTC 1994 |
what? No one organizing a grexpedition to see it on Thursday night?
Pattie
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robh
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response 35 of 49:
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Nov 15 23:50 UTC 1994 |
Nope, because my parents will take me to see it for free on
my birthday. >8)
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kerouac
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response 36 of 49:
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Nov 21 22:11 UTC 1994 |
Well, ok I saw the "Generations" movie finally on Saturday. I thought it had
some flaws but on the whole was a godod movie wiorthy of the STark Trek name My
one beef is they took out the skydiving scene that orignially was to have been
at the Start of the movie. Aklso I wish some of the characters had more to do
than just stand around.
aL IN ALL, A GOOD MOVIE THOUGH....star rtrejk lives!
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bliddil
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response 37 of 49:
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Nov 24 04:39 UTC 1994 |
It was absolutely above average Star Trek. Thank goodness they stopped
looking for God. :-)
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peacefrg
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response 38 of 49:
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Nov 28 00:11 UTC 1994 |
I finally saw it. Loved it.
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mgout
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response 39 of 49:
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Feb 15 01:56 UTC 1995 |
I've seen the damn movie already,they killed the ship.
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albaugh
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response 40 of 49:
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Nov 24 15:27 UTC 1998 |
Who's going to the Dec. 11 release of Insurrection?
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robh
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response 41 of 49:
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Nov 24 16:54 UTC 1998 |
Shows you how out of it I am, I didn't even realize it was coming
out this year... >8)
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lumen
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response 42 of 49:
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Nov 25 23:20 UTC 1998 |
Oh duh, that's right. Julie and I will have to see-- we get married the next
morning.
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starwolf
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response 43 of 49:
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Dec 7 15:03 UTC 1998 |
Congratulations. I will probably not get to see it until at least mid
Feb., being in Germany and all. :(
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papa
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response 44 of 49:
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Nov 24 11:10 UTC 2017 |
Star Trek: Discovery or The Orville?
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tod
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response 45 of 49:
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Nov 28 20:37 UTC 2017 |
I forgot Orville exists
have to watch more
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papa
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response 46 of 49:
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Nov 30 07:19 UTC 2017 |
I saw a couple of The Orville episodes while they were on YouTube (since taken
down). They were a lot of fun, more homage than parody.
STD might be interesting, but I don't feel motivated to go out of my way to
see it. It's obviously not my TOS, but I've got my memories and BDs.
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mijk
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response 47 of 49:
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Feb 10 19:23 UTC 2018 |
papa: you are like the Grex-topic phoenix. :) I have no idea what Orville,
STD or TOS are but i imagine they are something good.
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papa
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response 48 of 49:
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Feb 12 03:54 UTC 2018 |
resp:47
"Grex topic phoenix". That's a cool title, though I can't (yet) claim credit
for flaming a backtalk topic to death.
I apologize for the Star Trek fan terminology. There have been seven official
Star Trek television series to each of which fans have applied
after-the-fact a three-letter abbreviation for convenience of reference.
1. TOS - "Star Trek" (1966-69) ("The Original Series"[*])
2. TAS - "Star Trek" (1973-74) ("The Animated Series"; a Saturday-
morning children's cartoon)
3. TNG - "Star Trek: The Next Generation" (1987-94)
4. DS9 - "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" (1993-99)
5. VOY - "Star Trek: Voyager" (1995-2001)
6. ENT - "Star Trek: Enterprise" (2001-05)
7. STD - "Star Trek: Discovery" (2017-present) (STD is also a common US
abbreviation for "Socially-Transmitted Disease")
STD is a current attempt to revive the franchise on television. I have
seen no more of it than a few reviews on YouTube, but the attempt has
attracted much fan controversy. I have heard that a recent episode
featured a series-impacting plot twist that's the most ill-conceived fan
service in the history of television.
"The Orville" is another science fiction television series that started
broadcasts in the US in 2017. The series was created and stars Seth
MacFarlane who is most famous for creating the animated series "Family
Guy". I saw a few of the initial episodes which were briefly available
on YouTube (they have since been deleted). MacFarlane is apparently a
fan of Star Trek of the TNG generation, and The Orville does a lot of
homage to many of the older series. It could be described as a clone of
TNG with a comedic touch. Star Trek fans seem to like The Orville better
than STD, though television critics feel the opposite. The responder
felt the episodes viewed were not profound, but nostalgically
entertaining.
[*] The abbreviation TOS is somewhat controversial among True Fans like
the responder, similar to the resentment True Star Wars Fans feel
toward the attaching of an episode number or subtitle to the One
True Movie Called "Star Wars".
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mijk
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response 49 of 49:
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Feb 12 21:31 UTC 2018 |
Thanks for that papa! That cleared that up nicely :). I can't believe TOS only
ran for 3 years? I remember it well. The reference to a phoenix, btw, was
intended to refer to the act of rebirth, from the flames an old thread
arrises; not flames of any other kind. :)
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