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Grex > Oldcoop > #179: Grex Board of Director's Meeting Minutes - May 21, 2004 | |
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cyklone
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response 25 of 45:
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May 26 21:14 UTC 2004 |
"With the request from the author to remove it . . . "
Oh yeah, the Jep Solution. It worked so well in the past!
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glenda
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response 26 of 45:
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May 26 22:16 UTC 2004 |
Not the jep solution. This was a copyrighted work, copied in total, and
claimed to be the work of the person posting it. The actual author complained
about it and asked that it be removed. Totally different situation. Even
you should be able to see that.
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cyklone
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response 27 of 45:
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May 26 23:05 UTC 2004 |
Perhaps I was too subtle for you. When you adopt a system whereby a person
can simply assert "I am the copyright owner, you must remove that" without
independent investigation, then you are essentially giving power to anyone
bold enough to make that claim, regardless of whether or not they in fact have
a valid copyright. Even a pinhead should be able to see that.
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twenex
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response 28 of 45:
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May 26 23:16 UTC 2004 |
Whilst cyklone's diatribe is rather aggressive, I would agree with a more
measured version thereof.
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glenda
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response 29 of 45:
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May 26 23:17 UTC 2004 |
We did do independant investigation before removing it. The incident and what
was done about it and why were discussed in the item where the posting
occurred. Before screaming about improper actions by staff go look at it.
It is item 110 in Agora.
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jp2
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response 30 of 45:
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May 26 23:27 UTC 2004 |
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glenda
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response 31 of 45:
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May 26 23:30 UTC 2004 |
Your work was fully cited as to author and where it came from. No one claimed
it to be their's and not yours.
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jp2
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response 32 of 45:
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May 26 23:37 UTC 2004 |
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glenda
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response 33 of 45:
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May 27 00:06 UTC 2004 |
Wrong, you are not a second class user. I is felt that what you are
complaining about falls under fair use. From the DMCA: "`(c) OTHER RIGHTS,
ETC., NOT AFFECTED- (1) Nothing in this section shall affect rights, remedies,
limitations, or defenses to copyright infringement, including fair use, under
this title."
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other
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response 34 of 45:
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May 27 01:54 UTC 2004 |
Jamie, unless you can prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that the
use you decry was not fair use, I respectfully request that you
cease demanding that the barn doors be locked when the horse was
never even there to escape.
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jp2
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response 35 of 45:
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May 27 01:56 UTC 2004 |
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jp2
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response 36 of 45:
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May 27 01:57 UTC 2004 |
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cyklone
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response 37 of 45:
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May 27 03:59 UTC 2004 |
Re #29: Before screaming about improper actions you may want to reread what
I wrote, which was about general *principles* (a word many grexers seem
unfamiliar with) and not the specific situation involving Russ.
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krj
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response 38 of 45:
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May 27 16:48 UTC 2004 |
Ho hum.
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albaugh
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response 39 of 45:
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May 27 20:47 UTC 2004 |
Re: #27 - cyklone, don't *you* be a pinhead. Any statement that asserts or
implies that grex staff will not or is incapable of exercising proper and
measured action instantly loses all weight.
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cyklone
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response 40 of 45:
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May 27 22:34 UTC 2004 |
I guess I don't follow your logic. The Valerie/Jep incident clearly showed
that at least some staff were incapable of exercising proper and measured
action. That being the case, I think only a pinhead would NOT be concerned
about that happening in the future. Of course one way to provide
assurances the lesson has been learned would be to restore the deleted
posts not owned by Valerie or Jep.
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jp2
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response 41 of 45:
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May 28 00:52 UTC 2004 |
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albaugh
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response 42 of 45:
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May 28 19:09 UTC 2004 |
Bay away if you feel you must. Any notion that passing resolutions is really
going to protect you from rogue staff on grex is delusion...
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soup
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response 43 of 45:
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May 31 02:25 UTC 2004 |
So we sit around and wait for the bombs to fall; and when they destroy the
village, we don't rebuild it.
Sounds like a plan!
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albaugh
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response 44 of 45:
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Jun 1 16:09 UTC 2004 |
If you are huddled like a wimp waiting for the bombs to fall on grex,
you need a different place to hunker down. See ya...
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jesuit
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response 45 of 45:
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May 17 02:15 UTC 2006 |
TROGG IS DAVID BLAINE
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