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orinoco
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response 25 of 36:
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Nov 20 20:33 UTC 2002 |
Fatal doses of most drugs vary widely, and addicts can build up an enormous
tolerance to their drug of choice. Just as a heavy drinker might still be
standing after drinking enough alcohol to put you or me in the hospital,
Cobain could well have been able to shoot a gun with enough heroin in him to
kill a novice user.
Now I'm not saying he did kill himself, and I'm not saying he didn't. I'm
saying either possibility's consistent with the evidence you've given.
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response 26 of 36:
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Nov 20 20:52 UTC 2002 |
#24: Which statements shouldn't I make, and why shouldn't I make them?
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greycell
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response 27 of 36:
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Nov 21 06:13 UTC 2002 |
hey orinoco....
here are the few excerpts from the report of a doctor roger lewis...
so that will make clear the cause of kurt cobain's death...
1..TRIPLE MAXIMUM LETHAL DOSE EVEN FOR SEVERE ADDICTS: At least three days
after his death, Kurt Cobain's blood contained 1.52 milligrams of morphine per
litre (mg/L) plus traces of a "diazepam-like" substance. This level is widely
known to represent three times the lethal dose of heroin, but it is not
commonly understood that this level is three times the lethal dose even for
severe heroin addicts. Generally, a blood morphine level of 0.5mg/L is caused
by 75 mg - 80 mg of heroin, the established maximum lethal dose, even for
severe addicts. A blood level of 1.52 mg/L generally indicates an original dose
of approximately 225 mg - 240 mg of heroin.
2..INCAPACITATED OR DEAD BEFORE GUNSHOT: Large overdoses of heroin by heroin
addicts are a phenomenon which is well understood. Research clearly shows that
an overdose in the range of that received by Cobain would lead to immediate and
complete incapacitation and/or immediate death.
3.. OTHER FACTORS ENSURED OVERDOSE LETHALITY: The 1.52 mg/L blood morphine
level does not compensate for the presence of diazepam, or Cobain's low body
weight, both of which are well proven to substantially increase the lethality
of the heroin.
4..CASE UNPARALLELED IN SUICIDE & OVERDOSE REPORTS: A review of 3586 suicides,
including 760 violent suicides, shows no case involving both a gun and narcotic
overdose of any kind, supporting theories regarding the absence or extreme
rarity of violent suicide among addicts.
5..CASE CONSISTENT WITH HOMICIDE PATTERNS: A review of cases involving
homicides shows many similarities with patterns in the Cobain case.
6..OTHER EVIDENCE INDICATES HOMICIDE: Officially acknowledged evidence exists
which indicates the possibility of homicide, including a misleading missing
persons report, postmortem credit card usage, handwriting discrepancies on the
"suicide" note, and the lack of legible fingerprints on the weapon. It appears
the police were prejudicially in favour of a suicide ruling, and that the
coroner was involved in a conflict of interest predisposing him towards this
major discrepancy in the evaluation of his findings.
7..CONCLUSION: HOMICIDE: The evidence indicates that a massive intravenous dose
of heroin, and possibly a benzodiazepine, was administered to Cobain. The final
of the two known injections incapacitated and/or killed Cobain, and the gunshot
is evidence of a homicide staged to look like a suicide. The case should be
re-opened by an independent investigatory body.
and this one....--->>>>>>>>>>>>
only for ur comment....my dear...orinoco.--->>
TOLERANCE HAS A WELL DEFINED LIMIT
The fact that there is "higher tolerance among addicts" is commonly
misunderstood. This concept is evoked apparently as an attempt to describe how
it could be remotely possible that Cobain was alive and functioning well enough
to fire a shotgun, despite the otherwise triple maximum lethal dose. The "1.52
mg" figure refers specifically to the morphine per litre of blood. No doubt
exists that a blood level of 1.52 mg of morphine per litre represents just a
little bit over three times the maximum lethal dose, but the implications of
this fact are not well understood. ....
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so i think its a bit clear from this information that kurt did not commit
suicide but he was "murdered" by the bitch named.....courtney love.... and i am
praying to god that reserve a hot seat in hell for that bitch...amen....
------->>>>>> keep on posting.... just shoot them... bye bye
waiting..........mukesh.......
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orinoco
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response 28 of 36:
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Nov 21 22:47 UTC 2002 |
Why bring in the shotgun to make it look like a suicide if he'd already been
given such a clearly lethal dose? Such a massive overdose would already look
like either suicide or a drug-addled fuckup.
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greycell
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response 29 of 36:
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Nov 22 16:46 UTC 2002 |
hey orinoco
by this time you should be able to understand the whole story but u r
not....... it clearly states that he was very much troubled by his wife.. and
he buoght the gun for his safety.... but even i don't know why he took such a
high lethal dose... i can't explain it my dear... bye --->>>mukesh
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happyboy
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response 30 of 36:
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Jan 2 08:40 UTC 2003 |
jeeze, sounds like someone got ahold of a copy of
"kurt & courtney" *lol*
he started writing the note--booted up--finished the note
and sucked on the barrel. prolly. deal with it, he did a total
asshole
thing to his friends and family (especially his poor kid who
is stuck with a borderline-beast of a mom...she'll be a mess).
he shot the wrong person.
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greycell
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response 31 of 36:
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Jan 19 06:14 UTC 2003 |
hey happyboy......u don't seem to be happy at all
seems someone had.....kicked ur ass badly
hahahaha
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happyboy
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response 32 of 36:
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Feb 2 08:30 UTC 2003 |
i'm pretty happy & no one has kicked my ass recently.
so *ur* dumb and *ur* wrong.
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greycell
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response 33 of 36:
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Feb 16 08:35 UTC 2003 |
so surrealist..thats all you have to mention...
cya
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happyboy
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response 34 of 36:
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Feb 17 08:39 UTC 2003 |
a piglet tree just floated past my broomhandle
on the wigglin wing of a happy blue fish!
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greycell
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response 35 of 36:
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Feb 21 03:20 UTC 2003 |
hey really didn't get you this time...
so try to explain ur this statement or verdict...
cya
regards
mukesh
:)
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happyboy
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response 36 of 36:
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Feb 21 07:55 UTC 2003 |
hai r u havign big booms?
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