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Grex > Music2 > #66: The King Is Gone--Or _Is_ He? The Elvis Presley Item | |
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orinoco
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response 25 of 41:
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Aug 18 23:50 UTC 1997 |
Hmm...sort of, omni. I never got around to finishing reading it.
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senna
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response 26 of 41:
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Aug 19 08:09 UTC 1997 |
Elvis wasn't just music, he was image. People remember the image more than
the music, and that's what he did for rock n roll.
George's guitar work doesn't impress me overmuch. There are plenty of others
who are more adept.
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omni
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response 27 of 41:
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Aug 19 13:07 UTC 1997 |
Of course there is Eddie Van Halen ;)
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senna
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response 28 of 41:
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Aug 19 21:56 UTC 1997 |
Such as Eddie Van Halen.
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lumen
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response 29 of 41:
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Aug 20 01:49 UTC 1997 |
That's not fair-- Eddie Van Halen is among the most technically skilled
players, so *everyone* suffers when they are compared to him.
Personally, I get tired of guitarists when they place so much emphasis on
competition, especially in the technique area. Harrison isn't an amzing
player, but he's nice to listen to.
For that matter, when we the lasxt time you heard someone who was a wizard
at playing the flamenco style? *That* is some difficulty.
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omni
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response 30 of 41:
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Aug 20 02:30 UTC 1997 |
I believe Hector Elizondo, of Chicago Hope is an accoplished flamenco
player.
How about the likes of:
Chet Atkins
Mark Knofler <sp>
Jimi Hendrix
or Lester and Earl (Flatt and Scruggs)
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orinoco
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response 31 of 41:
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Aug 20 16:04 UTC 1997 |
Well, technique for it's own sake isn't a worthy goal, but it's sure a good
means to an end. What lumen said - Harrison isn't technically brilliant, but
he's still my favorite Beatle.
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lumen
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response 32 of 41:
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Aug 21 01:58 UTC 1997 |
Lester and Earl? Didn't they pioneer banjo picking styles? As for Hendrix,
guitarists I've talked to note him for his experimentation, but not
necessarily for his techinical superiority.
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omni
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response 33 of 41:
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Aug 21 14:56 UTC 1997 |
I forget which one played the banjo, and which one played the guitar,
However, I did see something on TNN about a man who is can be called a master.
Roy Clark, who as I heard, can play in any style he cares.
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scott
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response 34 of 41:
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Aug 21 16:07 UTC 1997 |
Tommy Tedesco. He is (was?) one of the studio heavyweights. Any guitar-like
instrument, any style. For the short run of Martin Mull's talk show
("Fernwood Tonight") he played the bandleader.
Earl Scruggs played banjo, and there is at least one book by him on the style
he uses.
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lumen
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response 35 of 41:
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Aug 21 22:18 UTC 1997 |
Right-- most banjo teachers teach the Scruggs method. That would mean Lester
is the guitar player. As for Roy Clark, he had been a staple of the "Hee Haw"
country variety show for years, and I'm sure he had been playing for years.
By the way, shouldn't this discussion thread be tied to Jovan's item about
musicians, techniques, and styles?
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tpryan
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response 36 of 41:
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Aug 24 16:22 UTC 1997 |
There are a lot of songs Elvis only played *once* - to record
this chaf as filler for the many movie soundtrack albums that needed
to be put out with the movie. While there are Elvis fans that would
be able to pick out one that is on their fave list, that fact remains
that in the Elvis archives, a lot of tunes are uninspired/unperspired.
Usually only the title theme is what would make it to the 'really
learned, rehearsed and used in a concert setting. Elvis did compose
a few words/music, but as we noted above, mostly found, or had song
found for him to sing.
Now some of the others we respect, Buddy Holly, Bob Dylan,
the Beatles, Billy Joel and more did sweat to put together their
tunes. They lived with these in their head for some time, then
sweat to do get them into concert and recorded performances.
Elvis in 1956 woke up the music industry and America to a
dramatic change, a change that might have happened anyway, but not
so much without the personality/packaging to go with it.
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kewy
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response 37 of 41:
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Oct 8 00:10 UTC 1997 |
oh, so that's why we had all the elvis stuff on sale at work <smacks herself
on the forehead>
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diznave
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response 38 of 41:
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Oct 21 21:08 UTC 1997 |
I have never laughed so hard as I did when I was watching the
documentary/movie of Elvis' Vegas comeback shows '69. At one point, during
dress rehearsal, he walked out on stage while the band was jamming to a low
sort of jumping tune. He picked up the mike...started nodding his head along
with the music...you thought he was going to start singing the song, but
instead he says, "Ubbagobbageebagobbagabbagubbagobbageebagubbagoddamn!!" I
am not exxagerating in the least. Oh, right before he says that amazing line,
he says, "Now, some of y'all may not've been down south too much.....", *then*
he says the gobbledy gook line. I was rolling. No offense to anyone, but my
friend and I were just watching the video in order to laugh at Elvis, anyway.
And in addition, we were in the right frame of mind.
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lumen
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response 39 of 41:
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Oct 22 01:25 UTC 1997 |
That does sound hilarious! I hope nobody got any funny ideas about the
South-- hehehe. :)
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diznave
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response 40 of 41:
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Oct 22 05:02 UTC 1997 |
Too late, Jon! <just kidding...heh heh...>
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lumen
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response 41 of 41:
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Oct 23 05:00 UTC 1997 |
Hee hee hee!
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