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Grex > Music2 > #181: A Real Community-Based Radio Station for Ann Arbor? |  |
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krj
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response 25 of 39:
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Feb 24 14:17 UTC 1999 |
(( Winter Agora #133 <---> Music #181 ))
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drewmike
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response 26 of 39:
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Feb 24 15:36 UTC 1999 |
Thayrone works one floor above me. (One floor and a couple of cubicles over,
actually.)
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cmcgee
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response 27 of 39:
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Feb 24 16:15 UTC 1999 |
Record companies and radio stations are not the people who collect and pay
_performance_ royalties to artists. That's BMI, ASCAP, SESAC (thanks
cyclone). Radio stations have to have licensing agreements with _all_ those
groups, or face legal penalties for playing music they control. (same for
bars, clubs, concert venues).
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polygon
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response 28 of 39:
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Feb 24 22:39 UTC 1999 |
The most interesting example of a "community" (non-commercial, non-NPR)
radio station that played classical music was WVCA in Gloucester, Mass.
Gloucester is located on a peninsula called Cape Ann, and the call letters
stand for "the Voice of Cape Ann".
The station was set up many years ago, back before FM radio frequencies in
metro areas were thought of as hot properties. The owner, manager, and
sole on-air personality was an old curmudgeon who ran the station out of
his apartment, playing all kinds of classical music. Sometimes, if he
didn't time it right, there was an interval of dead air when he ran to get
a roast out of the oven or use the bathroom.
I don't remember the curmudgeon's name, but in interviews he said he
*hated* Gloucester. There's only two things you can do here, he said
gloomily, work or have sex; "I don't have a sex partner, so I work."
Some commercial radio group tried to get his license taken away, on the
ground that he didn't have news or weather or all the usual kinds of radio
blab. The Gloucester community rallied in support of the curmudgeon, and
the FCC renewed WVCA's license.
However, about five or ten years ago, the old curmudgeon retired and sold
the thing, so it's presumably some random Boston-area FM station now.
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orinoco
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response 29 of 39:
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Feb 25 22:08 UTC 1999 |
(Is there any basis for taking someone's FCC license taken away because he
doesn't have news, weather, etc..., or were they just casting around for some
excuse to get rid of the guy?)
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danr
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response 30 of 39:
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Feb 25 23:27 UTC 1999 |
At one time, stations did have minimum requirements for news coverage. In the
last couple of years, they have either cut way back on those requirements or
eliminated them altogether.
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wcross
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response 31 of 39:
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Feb 25 23:55 UTC 1999 |
There are many, many rules...you must give out call letters and frequency
every so often (station identification). You must run X number public
service announcements. You must meet a bunch of financial requirements...
I know that a few years back, WQBR at EMU tried to get a full lic. They
currently have a low wattage permit and a lic. to broadcast on the cable
run through the dorms. The FCC is a serious group. They needed at least
$200,000 per year for five years **before** they could apply to broadcast.
That applies to brand new lic. only. An alum was going to donate the tower,
that was another $1 million or so (he got it cheep, but)...
Or you can broadcast with out FCC approval. It just can not reach more
than 1 sq. mile.
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russ
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response 32 of 39:
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Feb 26 04:44 UTC 1999 |
Re #31: I believe you can transmit anything you want in the FM band,
as long as you aren't interfering with another service and you stay
below 100 milliwatts (that's one tenth of a watt) output power.
The law doesn't say "one mile". It couldn't; the distance you can be
heard depends too much on the receiver and the terrain, so who could
say you were legal or not? Measuring power is something you can define.
Doing a few quick numbers... I seem to recall a received power of
something like -80 dBm (that's 80 dB below a milliwatt) to get a good
received signal. Let's assume that's -70 dBm for a stereo FM signal.
If we assume that the receiver's antenna can get the energy from an
area a half-meter square, this means we need -64 dBm/m^2 wherever we
are. Transmitted power can be up to +20 dBm, and the antenna probably
adds 3 dB in effective power (a doubling). A fancy antenna would add
a lot more, but let's stick with that. Our path loss allows us 87 dB
of dissipation, which allows the signal to cover a sphere of about
500 million square meters of area. By A = 4 * pi * r^2, that sphere
has a radius of 6300 meters, or about 4 miles. That's line-of-sight.
A good antenna which throws all your power at the horizon instead of
up or down could double that range; any kind of blockage between
could cut it by a factor of ten. Four miles LOS seems reasonable.
So yeah, if you wanted to run your amateur classical station, and your
house was up on a hill, you could probably be heard over a big part
of Ann Arbor. Just pick a locally vacant FM channel and go for it.
You could even transmit on different channels in different parts of
town, and get coverage all over. Keeping several transmitters doing
the same thing at the same time could be fun; I suggest looking into
a bunch of Diamond Rio MP3 players and siting at friendly ISP's.
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drewmike
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response 33 of 39:
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Feb 26 10:12 UTC 1999 |
I've violated FCC regs. When I was at WJBK. Not prepared to go into
details right now.
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jazz
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response 34 of 39:
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Feb 26 17:01 UTC 1999 |
Bad Erik! To the pit with you!
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drewmike
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response 35 of 39:
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Feb 26 17:42 UTC 1999 |
The long and the short of it: Whenever we got a piece of mail that made some
comment about programming or Channel 2's role in the community (events,
billboard advertising, whatever) I was supposed to send it upstairs to our
traffic department, so they could keep it in our Public file, per FCC regs.
One day, as I was shuffling through contest entries, I found a postcard that
said: "Hi. Please enter me in the 'Corrina, Corrina' drawing. I love Warren
Pierce--he's the best!"
And that, along with Channel 2's address, was all that was on the postcard.
No name. No address. Detroit postmark, which could have meant anything.
Well, anyway, I was so impressed by that card that I swiped it. It could have
been that one missing vote of confidence in Warren that could have kept him
from getting fired.
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goose
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response 36 of 39:
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Mar 5 18:57 UTC 1999 |
The FCC is considering adding a Low Power FM group of licences.
It is currently in the public comment portion of their rulemaking
process I belive. Expect lots of opposition from the NAB (National
Association of Broadcasters)
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krj
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response 37 of 39:
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Mar 28 05:30 UTC 2000 |
Monday's New York Times reports that the broadcasting lobby has given up
on the FCC in their fight against the FCC's proposal
to issue low-power broadcast licenses. The broadcasters are now
putting heavy pressure on Congress to pass legislation to kill the
low-power station plan, and Congress seems to be caving.
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goose
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response 38 of 39:
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Mar 28 21:07 UTC 2000 |
<sigh>
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diznave
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response 39 of 39:
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Mar 29 16:17 UTC 2000 |
There are currently two LEGAL low power stations in Gainesville (under 100
watts..or maybe it's 1000...not exactly sure) each of which has been fighting
for a long time with the local FCC. This new measure was passed in the past
6 months. I remember hearing stories about a bust last summer with all of one
of the stations equipment taken or broken. There is a major dissatisfaction
with the radio in this area (me included). Especially after the shutdown of
97X, which, in my opinion was the best commercial radio station I've ever
heard. So, a vast number of the student population got behind the 'pirate'
stations...
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