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teflon
response 25 of 31: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 02:23 UTC 1997

OK, thanks.
lumen
response 26 of 31: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 07:50 UTC 1997

Dammit, I like "A Fifth of Beethoven!"  Pppphhhhhttt!  I refuse to let any
sort of classical purist or disco hater to get to me!  (Of course, I freely
admit there is plenty of bad disco and club/dance music out there..I am
choosy.)

As to "what is rock?" well, we discussed that in the "The day the conference
died" item, referring to Don McLean's most popular song "The Day The Music
Died."  Rock has received so many musical grafts it's hard to tell what it
is anymore.  It evolved from 'race music,' which was softened to rhythm and
blues-- especially songs cleaned up for the clean-cut white teenage audience.
The term 'rock 'n roll' was coined by a radio DJ to get the music played on
the air-- he worked in a station that was still racist at the time (well, rock
'n roll did face a lot of racism.)

There's a lovely poster in the Music Education room at the music library at
my school that shows the evolution of modern music on a tree.  Spirituals,
folk, country-western, jazz, etc.. it's all there up to at least the 70's or
so.  Rock has received grafts from folk and country-western music to make
protest music in the 60's, jazz to make fusion, etc.  The list is too
impossibly long for me to try to draw out here-- I'm not a modern music
historian, and I just don't have enough notes in front of me.

don't even get me started about modern electronic music and John Cage.. or
connections to techno, for that matter..
rcurl
response 27 of 31: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 19:53 UTC 1997

You are "defining" rock in terms of other - undefined - musical forms.
If you can tell "rock" if you hear it, you can describe what would be
written in the score - rhythms, harmonic progressions, etc - from which
it is played. That would define it. 
krj
response 28 of 31: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 21:21 UTC 1997

That "written in the score" thing is sort of a sticking point, 
though, since most rock isn't written or scored.
rcurl
response 29 of 31: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 04:15 UTC 1997

AAARRRRGH!
goose
response 30 of 31: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 17:13 UTC 1997

RE#26 -- I like Bethoven, I like disco, yet I cannot stand that song..
lumen
response 31 of 31: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 02:15 UTC 1997

To each their own.  What annoys you about that song?  I still think it has
something to do with an idea that those lines from Beethoven's 5th were
somehow ruined..
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