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remmers
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response 25 of 48:
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Dec 6 10:43 UTC 1998 |
Okay. I'll set up the vote today.
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dpc
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response 26 of 48:
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Dec 6 16:17 UTC 1998 |
Thanx, John!
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srw
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response 27 of 48:
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Dec 6 19:12 UTC 1998 |
This response has been erased.
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srw
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response 28 of 48:
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Dec 6 19:16 UTC 1998 |
I regret the lack of a web interface. I doubt that it will
disenfranchise any members (not positive, though) but it certainly
would be inaccessible to many of our non-members, if there were any
reason for them to vote.
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remmers
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response 29 of 48:
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Dec 6 21:09 UTC 1998 |
You wanna write one in the next five minutes, Steve? :)
Seriously, I agree that there should be a web interface.
It won't be a huge job, mainly a matter of adapting the
existing web interface to the board vote. But it'd still
take more time than I have right now. If you have time in
the next couple of days, please be my guest. Perhaps you're
even familiar with the code, since I gave you permission
to use the program for votes on HVCN.
As far as I know, no members will be disenfranchised. But
perhaps we should try to find out. Should I send mail to
all the members asking about this, and allow them to vote
in some other way if they can't use telnet or direct dial?
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remmers
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response 30 of 48:
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Dec 6 21:12 UTC 1998 |
(With your permission, Dave, I'll replace the phrase "I move" by
"It is moved".)
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remmers
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response 31 of 48:
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Dec 6 21:44 UTC 1998 |
Ok, the vote is now set up. I replaced "I move" by "MOTION:", purely
for stylistic reasons. I also corrected an obvious typo in resp:2 .
Other than that, the motion should be verbatim as it reads there.
If anybody notices a discrepancy, please let me know.
There's a message in the motd announcing the vote. (I had a link
item:coop,43 to this item in it, but noticed that Backtalk didn't
clickify it, so I took it out.) I'll also announce the vote in
Agora.
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jep
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response 32 of 48:
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Dec 7 19:54 UTC 1998 |
It's somewhat harder for me to log in to vote on this, but I think it's
probably worth the effort. (I normally use Grex via backtalk
exclusively.)
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remmers
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response 33 of 48:
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Dec 7 20:17 UTC 1998 |
Sorry for the inconvenience. I guess it's a LD call for you to
dial direct, but you could probably vote and be off in 2 minutes.
Or if telnet is an option, you can use that.
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jep
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response 34 of 48:
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Dec 7 21:45 UTC 1998 |
Yes, telnet is an option, and I did use it. The LD call wouldn't have
prevented me from voting, either, if I'd needed to use it. It wasn't
worth the trouble for the staff to do something, for me.
I wonder how many other members there are who use the WWW? I doubt if
anyone was prevented from voting this time, but this will get to be a
bigger issue as time goes on.
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atticus
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response 35 of 48:
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Dec 7 22:23 UTC 1998 |
I too would have preferred a Web interface.
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remmers
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response 36 of 48:
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Dec 8 01:17 UTC 1998 |
<remmers promises to have it ready by the next time we vote
on a proposal>
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jep
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response 37 of 48:
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Dec 8 13:53 UTC 1998 |
<jep appreciates remmers for his commitment to excellence on behalf of
Grex>
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kdkd
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response 38 of 48:
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Dec 11 19:59 UTC 1998 |
There are powerful, organized, well-funded forces that are hostile to
free speech. Most people are unaware and too involved in their daily
lives to oppose these forces of evil. It is the duty of people who
are aware to take a stand against antidemocratic forces when possible,
which is why I'm voting to support the Blue Ribbon campaign.
All that is required for evil to triumph is for good people to do
nothing.
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remmers
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response 39 of 48:
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Dec 16 19:49 UTC 1998 |
REMINDER: Last day to vote on this proposal is today, Wednesday December
16. The polls will close at midnight Eastern Standard Time.
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srw
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response 40 of 48:
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Dec 17 02:57 UTC 1998 |
I should have added, John, that I understood your inability to produce a
web interface for it in time to do some good. I would indeed have done
it myself if I had had the time. Like you, I did not.
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remmers
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response 41 of 48:
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Dec 17 10:41 UTC 1998 |
No problem. I intend to do this before any further votes.
Results of the vote on this proposal are:
Members: 32 out of 85 eligible members voted.
YES 27
NO 5
The proposal PASSED.
Also, 46 non-members voted. FYI:
YES 43
NO 3
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steve
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response 42 of 48:
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Dec 17 12:08 UTC 1998 |
I'm happy to see that it passed. But I'm distressed to see that
only 32% or so of our membership bothered to vote.
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aruba
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response 43 of 48:
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Dec 17 17:02 UTC 1998 |
32/85 = 38%
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steve
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response 44 of 48:
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Dec 17 19:33 UTC 1998 |
OK wise guy: I'm distressed to see that only 37.6470588235% of
our membership voted.
;-)
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rcurl
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response 45 of 48:
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Dec 17 20:43 UTC 1998 |
I'll take the second 7...
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dpc
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response 46 of 48:
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Dec 17 23:55 UTC 1998 |
Actually, the turnout was fairly typical. I'm glad the motion passed!
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toking
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response 47 of 48:
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Dec 21 22:30 UTC 1998 |
sorry can't resist....
37.64705882352941176470588235294117647%
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srw
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response 48 of 48:
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Dec 22 22:26 UTC 1998 |
I see we are really into details here, or we're bored waiting around for
a webmaster to make something happen.
OK - the vote passed, so I removed the pointer that was on our home page
(http://www.cyberspace.org/) to the discussion item, and placed a blue
ribbon which refers to the blue ribbon campaign webpage (btw one of the
4 most linked sites on the web, according to webcrawler, says the EFF).
I did not add any text to our site. We already have a lot of text,
and we do claim to be ...
a public service promoting
free speech
and
free access
on the Internet
The arrangement on the web page can be played with, but the <table> is a
bit of a house of cards, so it can be tricky to get some configurations.
Hopefully this simple change will accomplish the goal and not be ugly or
confusing. Comments are always welcome.
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