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aruba
response 25 of 35: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 21:16 UTC 2001

The amended bylaws don't put any restrictions on what kind of institutions
may become members.

I could be talked into requiring two people to sign.  But it might be a
burden for small organizations, and it's more ID than we require from
individual members (and they have more privileges).
aruba
response 26 of 35: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 21:20 UTC 2001

Er, that is, I could be talked into believing it's a good idea to require
two IDs from institutional members.  Of course I will do whatever the board
and the membership decide we should do.
mary
response 27 of 35: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 22:50 UTC 2001

With organizational memberships are we in effect sanctioning multiple
users with one login ID.  I think that's a fine thing to allow but I also
think with that it is appropriate to expect two people with some authority
in the organization to more or less accept some responsibility for who
uses the account. 

aruba
response 28 of 35: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 04:12 UTC 2001

The board voted to require institutional members to designate a contact
person who must send in ID.  I modified the membership FAQ to explain this
- see http://www.cyberspace.org/memfaq.html#institutional .
srw
response 29 of 35: Mark Unseen   Mar 25 22:02 UTC 2001

Grammar alert (from the memfaq) 
Institutions which -> Institutions that
gelinas
response 30 of 35: Mark Unseen   Mar 25 22:54 UTC 2001

Both are correct, last I heard.  "Which" is the relative pronoun for
non-humans; "whom" is the relative pronouns for humans; "that" is a relative
pronoun for both.  Ya pays yer money and ya takes yer choice.
aruba
response 31 of 35: Mark Unseen   Mar 25 23:43 UTC 2001

I've never gotten the hang of which/that, so I'll take your word for it,
Steve.  I made the change.
cmcgee
response 32 of 35: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 03:03 UTC 2001

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cmcgee
response 33 of 35: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 03:13 UTC 2001

 According to current usage (different from the 1960s when I first
learned)  " which" is the relative pronoun which connects the dependant
clause, "that" connects the independant clause.  Use which when the
meaning of the sentence requires you to read the clause to make sense; use
that when the meaning of the sentence is fine without the clause.

In the previous paragraph "which" is used correctly  in the first
sentence.  (The previous remark was expurgated becaue I had inadvertently
entered it when I meant to edit it.  I was trying to change my orginal
"that" in the first sentence to "which".)


gelinas
response 34 of 35: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 14:56 UTC 2001

If it's the sentence I think it is, "Institutions that" reads better than
"Institutions which."  The sentence continues, "become members . . . "
cmcgee
response 35 of 35: Mark Unseen   Mar 27 00:09 UTC 2001

Yep, that's the sentence.  New usage is "which" instead of the "that" which
you and I are used to.  Lost a fight to an editor on this one.
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