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Grex > Coop10 > #99: I need to buy something from Grex | |
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keesan
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response 25 of 29:
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Apr 21 17:15 UTC 1998 |
I have no objection to knowledgeable staff borrowing grex equipment (the more
useful stuff, not the worthless monitors) but think the average member should
not be allowed access to it because the average member, if anything like me,
could damage the equipment and the member. Would somebody be willing to
classify grex's equipment into 1. stuff useful to grex that can be borrowed
by people who have used it already, and their employers if stuff has been
borrwed from their employers and 2. stuff of no use to grex, that people can
offer to buy, and if nobody bids higher within three days it is theirs? The
stuff in the second category could be posted in classifieds and maybe grex
could actually get rid of some of it before it is totally obsolete. WOuld
it be a very long list?
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other
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response 26 of 29:
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Apr 21 18:00 UTC 1998 |
i'm all in favor of staff doing whatever they please with whatever grex has,
while we spend the rest of eternity discussing policy initiatives to cover
such activities.
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rcurl
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response 27 of 29:
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Apr 21 18:23 UTC 1998 |
You're thinking of grex as a funky club of enthusiasts with no
responsibilities, personally or financially. That's partly true, but
not enough to really avoid thinking about legal, financial and ethical
responsibilities.
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janc
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response 28 of 29:
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Apr 21 20:47 UTC 1998 |
I have to agree with Rane in principle. As a non-profit, we do have to be
careful about "donating" things to for-profit organizations. It's literally
illegal.
If we sell things, we need to have some reason for believing we are getting
fair market value for them. There should be some procedure. Something like
what Dave suggested would be fine. Do just what Scott did - post something
on line saying you want to buy item X for price Y. If nobody complains that
that is too low a price, then we can reasonably assume it is at or above
market value, so we can sell it. I think that has been established for the
monitor that Scott wanted.
This still leaves the problem that only a few people know what old junk Grex
has, so only they can try to buy it. I've been wanting to assemble and post
an inventory for quite some time now, but I keep finding more interesting
projects.
The loan is a bit more difficult problem. I don't know what the market value
of a lease on a terminal server is. Scott's company has loaned us equipment
in the past, and if it had been done on an explicit "we'll loan you this if
you'll loan us that" basis, then I think it would be OK. I certainly do *not*
want to establish a policy of loaning our spares out to whomever might want
them. Much as I'd like to help out in a small way a company that has been
helpful to us, the fact that we are non-profit and they are for-profit limits
the kinds of informal exchanging of assets that we can do. I think we'd have
to charge a nominal fee to rent the terminal server.
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lilmo
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response 29 of 29:
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May 26 22:51 UTC 1998 |
What Jan said.
IMHO loans to other than profit-making enterprises should be in the hands of
the staff. If someone wants to borrow something, staff should have "written"
noticeof when it is being taken, by whom, where (at least which town), and
when its return is anticipated. That someone should also be known to staff,
and there should be some consensus that it is OK for said person to be
entrusted with Grex property.
Do we need anything more formal?
Oh, and notice of purchasing a Grex junk item should, IMHO, be in Agor _and_
Coop (er, Agora). In Agora for widest distribution, in coop for those of
us who might care, but don't have the time or energy to deal with the mob of
users and plethora of itmes and responses there. :-)
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