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Grex > Agora56 > #170: It's an honor just to be nominated. You fuckers. | |
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trap
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response 25 of 40:
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Mar 16 16:28 UTC 2006 |
i bet this guy is missing his slut mom, her name is america.
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albaugh
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response 26 of 40:
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Mar 16 19:42 UTC 2006 |
I have found the practice of trying to determine one film is better than
another during a particular calendar period to be flawed. "Art" is either
good, bad, mediocre, outstanding, etc. regardless of whatever art happens to
be created at or about the same time. They have turned an industry into an
arbitrary competition. If some people enjoy it, fine. Just don't try to take
it too seriously.
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remmers
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response 27 of 40:
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Mar 17 18:11 UTC 2006 |
The rant in #0 is seriously weird, especially coming from a major
author. I wonder what got into her. (I also am a fan of her "The
Shipping News".)
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richard
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response 28 of 40:
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Mar 18 20:53 UTC 2006 |
I didnt find anything wrong with Proux's rant. She is right about most
of the academy voters being rich older folks living in mansions in L.A.
who rarely ever go to the movies. That has been stated many times in
the press. In fact many of the people who vote on these things haven't
seen all (or sometimes any) of the nominated performances. "Crash" had
an advantage, as Proux points out, because it was out commercially on
DVD before the Awards.
The Awards, as Proux implies, are often a political process that has
nothing to do with the merits of the performances and films. Russell
Crowe deserved to win best actor for "A Beautiful Mind" and was the
favorite a couple of years back, but then at the British equivalent of
the Oscars, he got into a row with the producer of the show who cut
short his acceptance speech and fists went flying. Suddenly the word
went out around the elite in L.A. that Crowe was a bully and don't vote
for him. Columnists wrote "Crowe is a bully, don't vote for him" As a
result Crowe lost a race he should have won and would have won, clearly
for off-screen behaviuor that had nothing to do with his performance.
I might differ with Proux's remarks about Seymour Hoffman's performance
being possibly "less difficult" than Ledger's, because he was playing a
real person and had videotapes and such of the actual person to go by.
When people have a firm image of a person in their mind, I'd think it
would be more difficult to get people to accept your performance of
that person. I think he had a harder job than Ledger did.
But otherwise, her rants about the awards being over commercialized and
I think her comments were otherwise spot on. I don't see it as her
having sour grapes at all. In fact I think Proux would have made much
of the same comments had Brokeback Mountain won.
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mcnally
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response 29 of 40:
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Mar 18 21:16 UTC 2006 |
re #28: first off, her name is spelled "Proulx". but it's:
> I think Proux would have made much of the same comments had
> Brokeback Mountain won.
that I think people are going to have a hard time swallowing..
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richard
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response 30 of 40:
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Mar 18 23:55 UTC 2006 |
re #29 why? most of her comments had nothing to do with Brokeback
Mountain not winning, and was just an indictment of the process and the
show itself. I don't see any base motives here on her part. Clearly
she had these views about the Oscars before that movie was even
nominated, and still has those views now. A lot of people do. The
Oscars aren't for everybody. You don't really think she'd have written
a piece heaping praise on the Oscars if the movie had won do you?
I really think the criticism of her remarks again shows how people get
lambasted in this day and age just for being outspoken. The mihute
your are outspoken about anything now, you are assumed to have the
basest motives and are bashed into the ground. Everyone thinks they
are mind-readers nowadays.
McNally instead of assuming her motives, why don't you and everyone
else just address the merits of her arguments, which are themselves
quiet viable.
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cyklone
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response 31 of 40:
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Mar 19 01:55 UTC 2006 |
Your last point is valid. However, once again you seem to have an amazing
ability to read minds. Surely there must be some way for you to profit from
such a valuable skill. Perhaps you should take up poker.
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happyboy
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response 32 of 40:
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Mar 19 02:07 UTC 2006 |
re0: tempest in a teapot.
/swoons onto couch like starina
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richard
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response 33 of 40:
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Mar 19 03:04 UTC 2006 |
re #31 cyklone I wasn't reading anybody's minds. Other people were
reading Annie Proulx's mind and making assumptions about why she wrote
what she wrote. I was focusing on her points, which I think are
valid.
cyklone also once again posts in an item not to make any point about
the subject of the item, in this case annie proulx's comments, but to
take a swipe at me or someone else. I think Cyklone gives the
impression (I say that because I don't read minds naturally) that his
main desire to post here is to make cheap shots. Which I could at
least respect a *little* if you were posting under your real name
instead of silly handle like "cyklone"
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scholar
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response 34 of 40:
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Mar 19 03:15 UTC 2006 |
I thought this item was about fucking md's daughter.
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tod
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response 35 of 40:
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Mar 19 04:03 UTC 2006 |
She's not on Grex. Pick a wetspot that at least can respond.
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cyklone
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response 36 of 40:
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Mar 19 04:54 UTC 2006 |
Hey Richard, sorry you don't like my style of posting. If you can't read
minds, then just learn to read. To say "once again" I post "an item not
making any point about the subject of the item" is a bit disingenuous
considering how I've recently addressed "the subject of an item" recently
with klingon, slynne, bap and klg. I don't like sloppy thinking, and if I
see it, I mention it. The way I mention it may be construed as a "cheap
shot." Doesn't bother me. If you want, feel free to criticize the "style"
of my posts. Perhaps my use of quotes is too "bdh-esque."
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edina
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response 37 of 40:
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Mar 20 16:57 UTC 2006 |
Richard, I'm surprised at you. I was fine with her comment on the whole
production that is the Oscars, but when she referred to "Crash" as "Trash"
- the whole vein of the argument was *right there*. She's pissed because
Brokeback didn't win. Fullstop.
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mcnally
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response 38 of 40:
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Mar 20 17:27 UTC 2006 |
re #37: Thanks for pinpointing it. By itself that would be enough
to change the tone of the piece from "Pulitzer-prize winning novelist
offers criticism of celebrity culture" to "ungracious loser complains
about outcome."
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slynne
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response 39 of 40:
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Mar 20 17:54 UTC 2006 |
Plus, if she *really* were offering criticism of celebrity culture, she
could have released her piece before the awards ceremony. It wasnt just
what she said (although that was a big part of it), it was her timing.
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naftee
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response 40 of 40:
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May 3 02:59 UTC 2006 |
responses 8 to 25 are excellent !
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