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gull
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response 25 of 48:
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Nov 14 14:04 UTC 2003 |
I use vinegar to clean my washer now and then. A couple cups of it
added to an empty hot water cycle will remove water deposits from the
inner workings.
Tang does the same thing for dishwashers, incidentally. Run the
dishwasher empty (no dishes, no soap) and after the first fill cycle
finishes open the door, dump a can of Tang (or generic equivalent) into
the water in the bottom, close the door, and let the entire cycle run.
It'll clean all the scum and deposits off the inside and remove odors.
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mynxcat
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response 26 of 48:
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Nov 14 14:57 UTC 2003 |
Tang as in the orange drink??
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keesan
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response 27 of 48:
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Nov 14 16:42 UTC 2003 |
Artificially flavored drinks often contain citric acid. Vinegar is acetic
acid. Rane, which of these is stronger and how would you suggest cleaning
out the deposits of lime in Jim's toilet when he removes it to make a new
gasket? The current fix is a bucket under the tank and the toilet is a
nonstandard size from the thirties - it fits closer to the wall than the new
ones.
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tod
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response 28 of 48:
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Nov 14 17:54 UTC 2003 |
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flem
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response 29 of 48:
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Nov 14 18:09 UTC 2003 |
Saliva contains digestive acids.
I'm just sayin'. :)
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rcurl
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response 30 of 48:
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Nov 14 18:48 UTC 2003 |
Saliva is close to neutral. It contains an amylase that digests starch,
mainly to maltose. However starches are in the mouth for only a short time
so only a little is digested. What that does is make the starches taste
slightly sweet, which induces you to eat more.
Citric acid is a stronger acid than acetic, but calcium citrate is not
very soluble. Freshly deposited hardness is easily attacked by acetic acid
(in vinegar) but old "lime" deposits are much more resistant. I'm not sure
why that is, unless it is some conversion of the deposits to calcium
silicate, which is insoluble in acid. The best acid for removal of the
deposits is hydrochloric acid (still sometimes found called "muriatic
acid"), though this is a lot more dangerous to work with than vinegar.
Sulfuric acid can also be used and might be more obtainable ("battery
acid" is about 30% sulfuric acid - dilute to 10% for use - and be very
careful as it is a strong acid).
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gull
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response 31 of 48:
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Nov 14 20:29 UTC 2003 |
Re #26: Yes, the orange drink.
Re #27: There's a commercial product called CLR (for Calcium, Lime, and
Rust) that you might try.
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keesan
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response 32 of 48:
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Nov 14 20:47 UTC 2003 |
We don't have lemons or vinegar but we do have crystalline citric acid.
Can calcium citrate be scrubbed off more easily than calcium carbonate?
It is more interesting to use what we already have than to buy products.
We were supposed to use muriatic acid to remove excess mortar from bricks but
I think vinegar worked there.
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rcurl
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response 33 of 48:
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Nov 14 22:17 UTC 2003 |
(Would people please totally forget the term "muriatic acid"? It is
hydrochloric acid.)
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keesan
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response 34 of 48:
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Nov 15 03:04 UTC 2003 |
The instructions said 'muriatic acid' to clean the bricks. The term comes
from the Latin root mur for wall. The Romans may have used it on walls. It
is not supposed to harm the bricks.
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rcurl
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response 35 of 48:
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Nov 15 06:21 UTC 2003 |
No acids except hydrofluoric harm bricks. The main virtue of hydrochloric
acid is that it is cheap, hence it is used to clean bricks.
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keesan
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response 36 of 48:
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Nov 15 11:40 UTC 2003 |
I think it is also quicker than vinegar. What is in toilet bowl cleaner,
phosphoric acid?
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rcurl
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response 37 of 48:
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Nov 15 17:38 UTC 2003 |
There are different brands. Ingredients are on the label (usually).
Hydrochloric acid is a stronger acid than acetic acid.
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tsty
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response 38 of 48:
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Nov 16 07:30 UTC 2003 |
... and as related above, takes more care in its application(s).
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gull
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response 39 of 48:
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Nov 17 14:31 UTC 2003 |
I think my toilet bown cleaner is hydrochloric acid, but I'd have to look.
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twenex
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response 40 of 48:
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Nov 17 15:33 UTC 2003 |
hydrochloric acid would probably rot the bowl. more likely just bleach.
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rcurl
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response 41 of 48:
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Nov 17 18:09 UTC 2003 |
If the bowl is all ceramic, with no metal, hydrochloric acid would not
do any damage to it.
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twenex
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response 42 of 48:
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Nov 17 18:25 UTC 2003 |
I stand corrected.
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mynxcat
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response 43 of 48:
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Nov 17 19:35 UTC 2003 |
We had a granite sink that was ruined when we used some acid in it. I
want to say HCl, but coult it have been another acid?
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rcurl
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response 44 of 48:
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Nov 17 19:44 UTC 2003 |
Granite? Granite would be unaffected by acid. Perhaps it was marble? That
dissolves in acid.
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mynxcat
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response 45 of 48:
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Nov 17 20:11 UTC 2003 |
maybe a very low grade marble then?
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gull
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response 46 of 48:
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Nov 17 21:06 UTC 2003 |
Soapstone used to be a common thing to make laboratory sinks out of.
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rcurl
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response 47 of 48:
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Nov 18 00:19 UTC 2003 |
Soapstone is also impervious to acids (and alkalis).
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willcome
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response 48 of 48:
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Nov 27 07:54 UTC 2003 |
grungy /WHORES/.
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