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bhoward
response 25 of 34: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 02:09 UTC 2003

My use of "explicitly" was sloppy.  

What I'm trying to get at is that even if a potential employer doesn't
specifically make age an issue which as you point out would open them
to lawsuits, sno might still feel somehow that age was a factor.

If he does or strongly suspects it was, I'm curious what gave that
impression?

In the current market, I would expect cost (in terms of expected salary)
and skill set would be the main factors.  There are lot of IT workers
looking for work or switching career tracks right now.
gull
response 26 of 34: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 16:54 UTC 2003

From everything I've heard on the subject, age discrimination is rampant
in IT hiring.  Then the companies complain they're having trouble
finding enough qualified workers and get the government to issue more
H1B visas.
other
response 27 of 34: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 18:53 UTC 2003

That's only because with age comes the experience to know how to 
demand a fair wage.
gull
response 28 of 34: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 21:07 UTC 2003

Heh.
sno
response 29 of 34: Mark Unseen   Dec 10 16:06 UTC 2003

Database development work is my primary desire.  Programming is second
on this list.  Web Development third.  Fourth would be network 
administration.

I can't even get an interview.  They see less than 3 years "on the job",
observe I have had a 25 year career doing something else, and figure
I'm a wannabe.

I guess 20 years on Unix/Windows development is not enough if you were
not doing it for pay or can carry a paper around saying you passed school.  
I continue to hope to find an opening where someone already on the inside 
can speak up for me.

Enough whining.  I'll figure something out.

gull
response 30 of 34: Mark Unseen   Dec 10 18:49 UTC 2003

Your problem is going to be getting past the secretaries that throw out
resumes that don't match a strict reading of the qualifications.  I was
once told I couldn't be considered for a position because I was a few
months short of their three-year experience requirement, even though I
had related non-paid experience and other qualifications.
jmsaul
response 31 of 34: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 01:07 UTC 2003

In this market, they're able to keep standards like that since they're going
to get a lot of overqualified applicants for anything they post.  It isn't
unusual to get experienced programmers or sysadmins applying for positions
doing desktop support right now.  That'll change, but not right away.
gull
response 32 of 34: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 15:21 UTC 2003

If you want to work in IT, your best career move right now might be to
move to India. :P
sholmes
response 33 of 34: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 16:27 UTC 2003

heh I am not sure , but pretty soon it may start to move out of India to
countries like Phillipines .. better be there ahead of others :)
tpryan
response 34 of 34: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 23:01 UTC 2003

        Before Y2K, IT employers had not qualms about not having
a degree, but experience.  Now, you need the degree.  Can that be
defacto age discrimination?  In that an older worker did not have
to complete college (or IT classes) to be hired by the likes of
Ford.
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