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tod
response 25 of 45: Mark Unseen   Sep 17 22:53 UTC 2003

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fitz
response 26 of 45: Mark Unseen   Sep 17 22:55 UTC 2003

(studied)
tod
response 27 of 45: Mark Unseen   Sep 17 23:01 UTC 2003

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remmers
response 28 of 45: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 10:07 UTC 2003

One can acknowledge something as a work of art even if it has
been used to promote evil ends.  Examples: Triumph of the Will,
Birth of a Nation, and the Old and New Testaments.
tod
response 29 of 45: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 17:14 UTC 2003

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remmers
response 30 of 45: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 17:37 UTC 2003

Yes.  Literary art.  But you knew that.
happyboy
response 31 of 45: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 17:37 UTC 2003

only the perdy ones is.
clees
response 32 of 45: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 07:40 UTC 2003

Rane,
she knew what she was doing when shoting the documentary. Goebbels took 
over after her job was done.
She never took distance from her movie (the skill not counted).
There is craftmentship and there is content.

Scientists, artists or whether which profession that willfully co-
operates with a particular fascist regime is just as guilty as those 
committing the crimes against humanity, if committed.
oval
response 33 of 45: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 14:46 UTC 2003

you're eiher with us or against us.

fitz
response 34 of 45: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 16:13 UTC 2003

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tod
response 35 of 45: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 19:20 UTC 2003

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gull
response 36 of 45: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 19:36 UTC 2003

Heh.  It took me a minute to get the reference. :>
scott
response 37 of 45: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 20:00 UTC 2003

What, you're getting stale on Blues Brothers trivia already?  :)
rcurl
response 38 of 45: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 22:07 UTC 2003

I've had Buick, Hillman, Plymouth and Subaru stationwagons, but never a Ford.
tod
response 39 of 45: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 22:11 UTC 2003

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mcnally
response 40 of 45: Mark Unseen   Sep 21 02:19 UTC 2003

 Rane wrote:

 > I don't think she had anything to apologize for. Her art did not further
 > the Nazi enterprise even if they used it as propaganda. 

 That's contrary to nearly everything I've ever seen written about "Triumph
 of the Will", so I wonder how Rane reaches this conclusion..
rcurl
response 41 of 45: Mark Unseen   Sep 21 06:27 UTC 2003

In what specific ways did it further the Nazi enterprise that would not have
occurred without it? In some ways it was more of an alert to the world
of the nature of Nazism. How else could she have reported this to the
world?
mcnally
response 42 of 45: Mark Unseen   Sep 21 08:10 UTC 2003

 > In what specific ways did it further the Nazi enterprise that would not
 > have occurred without it? 

 Of course nobody will ever be ale to answer that question to your
 satisfaction..

 > In some ways it was more of an alert to the world of the nature of Nazism.
 > How else could she have reported this to the world?

 So in your view she wasn't just innocent of being a willing and complicit
 tool of the Nazis, she was high-mindedly performing a valuable public service?
 Sheesh.
rcurl
response 43 of 45: Mark Unseen   Sep 21 19:27 UTC 2003

She was just making movies of current  events.  Why do you insist on forcing
more into it?
i
response 44 of 45: Mark Unseen   Sep 21 23:22 UTC 2003

Her real problem is that being a film director is a name-up-front-and-on-
everyone's-mind social awareness job.  If instead she'd been designing
better U-boats, streamlining train schedules, or attacking the stupidities
of the Republic in newspaper columns, she would have gotten off clean.
rcurl
response 45 of 45: Mark Unseen   Sep 22 00:35 UTC 2003

Not by attacking the Republic....but then, she really was but the Nazis
didn't figure that out.
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