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oval
response 24 of 55: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 21:04 UTC 2002

i'll agree also. and i just can't stand that word - cunnilingus -

jazz
response 25 of 55: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 23:14 UTC 2002

        It doesn't roll off the tongue well, does it?  That's inappropriate.
phenix
response 26 of 55: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 23:20 UTC 2002

how about going down?
that term sit wit you better?
oval
response 27 of 55: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 23:21 UTC 2002

i like head.

 :D
oval
response 28 of 55: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 23:22 UTC 2002

lol!@ #25 btw
phenix
response 29 of 55: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 23:40 UTC 2002

head eh? that work
jazz
response 30 of 55: Mark Unseen   Mar 30 17:23 UTC 2002

        On the subject of #27 - who, outside of eeyore, DOESN'T like head?
jaklumen
response 31 of 55: Mark Unseen   Mar 31 05:15 UTC 2002

resp:18  Well, yes.  The key is you said *smart*.

resp:20  I think Julie meant that you get a lot of favorable 
response.  Hey, this guy will beg and grovel as far as that's 
concerned.

resp:23 resp:22 resp:19 I also agree with jazz and void.  Those few
 guys may have tried hard, but maybe they still didn't know what they  were
doing.  Both the woman and the man need to be educated as far as  oral
stimulation of the female genitals is concerned.  First of all..  it has to do
with the clitoris, and not the vagina (assuming that's  it.)  Then there's
experimentation, finding out what works.. what  amount of stimulation and
pressure is right, etc.

In our last sex cf, I seem to remember that much of the consensus was 
that semen is an acquired taste, so to speak.  I don't know if putting 
food on top helps any, such as body butter, chocolate, honey..  Can't 
remember the old item, but perhaps looking back is worth it.
jazz
response 32 of 55: Mark Unseen   Mar 31 08:21 UTC 2002

        Well, yes, and no.  I've been told that some guys are blissfully
unaware of the existence of the clitoris, but it really doesn't seem like
that closely guarded of a secret to me.  I mean, it's right there.  Unless
you're not paying any attention whatsoever, you'd at least wonder what the
little nub is for, and might chance to brush up against it in the process of
fingering.  So I don't buy the argument that bad head is the result of men
who don't know what a clitoris is.

        Now, men who don't know what to do with it (or, I understand from a
friend, women) are a different story.  Different people need different
degrees of stimulation.  Some women are capable of having the normally
covered portion of the clitoris stimulated immediately, and some can't handle
anything except for indirect stimulation at all.  I can completely buy
someone not doing THAT right, or learning one particular way and continuing
to use it with people it doesn't apply with.

        The REAL key with head, though, is enjoying it.  And letting your
partner know you enjoy it.  It's a complete turn-on to have a partner who
really enjoys giving you pleasure and would prefer at times that you simply
enjoy yourself while they give it to you.  If someone has issues with their
body, I can see accepting even the most direct partner being difficult.
eeyore
response 33 of 55: Mark Unseen   Mar 31 16:17 UTC 2002

Actually, I'm pretty sure that it's me and not the guys, and deffinately
know that one of the guys is thought of highly in that area.

You guys do realise that this doesn't bug me at all, right? :)
phenix
response 34 of 55: Mark Unseen   Mar 31 16:58 UTC 2002

sure. you're just a mystery:)
oval
response 35 of 55: Mark Unseen   Mar 31 23:38 UTC 2002

#32 is right on. and the key really is enjoying doing it. that eventually make
taste etc a non-issue. i couldnt enjoy receiving head if i knew the other
person had to apply something in order to be able to do it. [not that thats
out of the question - just the motive behind it] it would make me feel like
i'm gross or something..

but it think it is also easier to master the task on a man than on a woman.

i
response 36 of 55: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 01:24 UTC 2002

Re:  #33
Ack!  Just as the guys are safely talking themselves into believing that
that they've correctly diagnosed and solved the problem, just like the
hosts on Car Talk did with that clutch cable that kept breaking on the
highway, and that the problem is no threat to the competence or honor of
Real Guydom, and now you go and say something like that! 
morwen
response 37 of 55: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 02:04 UTC 2002

resp:20 I never meant that I thought it was an exercise in power.
I've been led to believe that girls don't like to give head for a 
variety of reasons.
Here are a couple I have heard.  

1) they think it's dirty
2) they think that the man is becoming dominant over them (feminist 
response)
3) they don't like the taste of the penis/ejaculate
I was responding in part to response #2

Any other reasons why some ladies don't like to give head?
oval
response 38 of 55: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 03:04 UTC 2002

the more pig-like man could then consider that woman as slutty.
jazz
response 39 of 55: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 03:26 UTC 2002

        I don't think it's an easier task to master with a man than a woman,
though perhaps there's a Kinsey three or two in the confrence who could 
comment from experience rather than speculation.  I'd speculate that for
competence, you'd need more of a psychological angle with women than men, but
that for truly outstanding sex you'd need a lot more than just physical skill
with either gender.

        Women don't like giving head to men?  I must've been lucky as hell,
then.  I've noticed in my admittedly skewed sample that some women have had
issues with giving head to orgasm, and that wasn't generally a problem, but
it seemed more that they considered it less intimate, and therefore only
foreplay, than anything else.  I've also noticed, in a few rarer cases,
people who've had issues due to past relationships or inexperience who are
very awkward about head, but did initiate it (as a side comment, I really
have to say not a one of them was bad;  perhaps lacking in skill, but making
up for it in honesty and connection).
jazz
response 40 of 55: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 03:27 UTC 2002

        Oh, and Meg, please don't take my suggestion-offering as an indication
that I think that all of this bothers you;  it's just that you're missing out
on one of the more fun things in life, IMHO, and people're bound to offer
suggestions.
michaela
response 41 of 55: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 03:40 UTC 2002

I don't think one is more difficult than the other, physically speaking.  Some
of the "issues" in women is that they think they taste bad or smell bad, so
it's hard to relax enough to have an orgasm.  As for technique, it's not that
hard if your partner communicates, but it can be damn difficult to know how
you're doing if they're silent or won't give little directions for pressure,
speed, etc.

As for the taste of male ejaculate, just swallow quickly and keep a drink near
the bed.  :)  It's not THAT horrible, but the tang/salty quality is a bit out
of the ordinary.  I just don't think about it since I enjoy pleasing my
partner.  That outweighs the second or two of "what an odd taste..."
jaklumen
response 42 of 55: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 04:19 UTC 2002

resp:35 well yes, jazz managed to say it a lot better than I.. resp:32 
was rather hastily written.

resp:39 okay, I'll bite, albeit reluctantly.  

Speaking from the receiving end, hmmm.. well, yes, it does take 
practice.  The term 'mastering' was used, so I don't think you can 
just suck away and be good.  Also, I have a hard time ejaculating from 
being fellated, which I suppose is from too much masturbation.

Speaking from the giving end, well, I'm not sure.  I suppose some guys 
have practiced 'staying power' or ejaculation delaying techniques, so 
some ejaculate fairly quickly, and some don't.  It's easy sometimes to 
be lazy.. I forget what the term is, but I think the slang is 'face-
fucking'.. and so sometimes the guy can just move it around as feels 
best while the giver remains still.

To be sure, a guy's sensitive parts are right out there, and it's hard 
to ignore them orally.  For a woman, well, they are smaller.  For me, 
well, it did help to read up and watch up on cunnilingus (sorry, 
easier to differentiate that way) and figure it out from there, 
because I was rather bad the first time I did it.

But I'm sure it *will* vary from individual to individual.

As for women's 'bad smell'..

"If is smells like fish, eat all you wish
If it smells like cologne, leave it alone."

Ejaculates (former), good.  Urine (latter), not tasty and so the 
genitals probably could use a good swab with a warm washcloth.
jaklumen
response 43 of 55: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 04:22 UTC 2002

btw, there's also a taboo on smegma.
morwen
response 44 of 55: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 08:32 UTC 2002

What's the problem with smegma?
michaela
response 45 of 55: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 10:13 UTC 2002

Ummm...  you do know what smegma is, correct?
jazz
response 46 of 55: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 16:13 UTC 2002

        Hahahaha.  Oh man, I can't stop laughing.
phenix
response 47 of 55: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 17:06 UTC 2002

the poem?
morwen
response 48 of 55: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 00:14 UTC 2002

Yes, I know what it is.  It smells gross and if Jon has it on him when 
I go to give him head, I usually clean it off of him just because of 
that.

Oh, heck! I put my foot in it again, didn't I?
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