response 27 of 44:

Jan 13 03:43 UTC 2004

Re resp:23: Field trip!

response 31 of 44:

Jan 14 16:41 UTC 2004

Hmm.  Among the text everyone here has seen on running newuser, in the section
entitled "Declaration of Principles", it says:
> 
> This system is intended to foster community education and the
>     spiritual and intellectual enrichment of its users through
>     the peaceable interchange of ideas.
> The members of this system hope to attract a large, diverse, and
>     mature group of thinking individuals and thereby to contribute
>     to a better-informed citizenry.
> Governance of the system is based on cooperative principles,
>     including open membership, democratic control, and non-
>     profit economics.
> This is an open-access system; the public is welcome.  However,
>     regular users are encouraged to become members and help
>     support the system financially.  Voting on system policy
>     matters is restricted to members.
> It should go without saying that the system is specifically NOT
>     intended for any illegal purpose.
> Users are asked to be considerate of others, and are especially
>     asked to make a point of setting a good example for those
>     few who may from time to time fail to return the favor.

That last sentence would suggest that jp2 be have to be one of the 
first exiled, if this ridiculous suggestion were put into practice.
I don't mean *merely* his actual practice of ignoring it, but his
repeated statements indicating that this is a matter of deliberate
policy on his part.

response 33 of 44:

Jan 15 02:11 UTC 2004

Hey, don't mock those rules.  Jan Wolter carried them out of a sacred 
machine room, band-printed on tablets of stone.

response 35 of 44:

Jan 15 03:41 UTC 2004

I'm still wondering if it's pronounced "love-lace" or "lovel-ace" or simply
"lo-velace".

response 37 of 44:

Jan 16 02:54 UTC 2004

Aww, you aren't gonna help?!

response 41 of 44:

Jan 21 17:08 UTC 2004

Jamie, are you really going to bring to a vote whether I can be a 
member of Grex?  Valerie has already resigned her membership so that 
part of the proposal seems moot to me.

I'm sure you know how it would come out, but I am curious as to whether 
you're going to go through making remmers set it up and asking people 
to vote on it.

response 43 of 44:

Feb 21 04:01 UTC 2004

Actually, I don't believe Jan had much to do with the "Declaration of
Principles" that you see in newuser.  This text came from the founders,
and existed in nearly its final form by 1996.  I believe what's
enumerated there largely matches Jan's personal principles, and I
suspect he'd write something pretty similar if asked, but Jan was down
in Texas at the time and the founders did not have the opportunity of
his input.

Regarding "who is eligible for membership"; it is generally up to each
individual user to decide if they are eligible.  Only they can decide if
what happens on this system is something they value.  Since this system
is largely defined by the participation of its members, it is
disingenuous to suggest that the board or members ought to be expelling
members for expressing their views.