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headdoc
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response 23 of 100:
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Dec 21 21:12 UTC 1997 |
It was so interesting and touching to read your comments, Mark about having
to "make the first move" and what that meant to you. When I grew up, a girl
never made the first move, so I often pined from afar. Dreamt, wished and
hoped. And then, when I got old enough to realize I "could" make the
first move, and that it was accepted by society, I was already long
married and not
about to, nor did I need to. But your comment made me think of so many
years
of time wasted and things that might have been, had I felt it was acceptable
to show a guy that I liked him first.
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aruba
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response 24 of 100:
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Dec 22 07:46 UTC 1997 |
It really is a dumb convention, isn't it?
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clees
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response 25 of 100:
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Dec 22 13:15 UTC 1997 |
Indeed that it is.
Making the first move. Well, let me tell you something.
Holland may be reputed for its liberal thoughts and the straightforwardness
of its inhabitants, but when it comes down to it, it still is the guys that
have to make the first move.
Why? I guess it is because on a social scale people get along quite well,
nothing to be worried about. But when it comes down to the kissing part, or
the shall we spend the night together phrase, most times it goes without
saying, and if so, then let the men take initiative.
So, my teenage years were lonely and my teenage nights were sweaty, with a
pillow as substitute (grin).
In college days it all changed. There was no more need for showing off my
muscles (non-present), but rather my wits.
Still, I have had some thirty hassles, one-night-stands and some steady dates
(in which I was steady in a loyal way, no sleeping around), but in all these
encounters only two or three women made a pass at me.
Which sometimes makes me wonder whether all were evenly and willingly
consenting to my amourouse actions. But I guess, I willn ever know.
In honest, I think that all my flings were try-outs for steady stuff. All this
short-term work isn't really my cup of tea.
A lot of words to say that .
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omni
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response 26 of 100:
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Dec 23 04:01 UTC 1997 |
Nowadays, making the first move could be called sexual harrassment. I don't
even *look* at women anymore, much less speak to them. I find it very hard.
I just don't need any more rejection.
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birdlady
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response 27 of 100:
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Dec 25 08:13 UTC 1997 |
A couple of past posts reminded me of the nurturing thing...
I like being a chick (thanks, Trisha) because I think men bond more readily
with females when it comes to emotional stuff. I love being a shoulder to cry
on or just someone to hug. I usually feel closer to men because of this. I
have one friend who tells his best guy friend everything, but when it comes to
heavy-duty emotions, he calls me.
I also enjoy that twinge I get when I hear a baby cry or say, "Momma" off in
the distance. (This does NOT include wailing and whining). =) I find it
funny that I can hear it clearly, but a male friend next to me won't even
notice.
Females can get ultra-mushy, too. A guy in my writing class last semester
wrote a poem about being lost and alone at sea and wanting to go back to what
we all thought was a girl. Then, he told us it was a poem for his mother
telling her how much he missed being young and being able to cry on her
shoulder. The guys were kind of blank, but all the girls, no matter how tough
they were, all went, "Awwww...that's so *sweeeet*..." glassy-eyed and all. =)
It cracked me up.
Mark - your story about being pressured to make the first move and knowing your
general nature wanted me to reach through the computer and give you a
comforting hug. <g> Maternal instinct strikes again!!!
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valerie
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response 28 of 100:
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Dec 25 14:08 UTC 1997 |
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headdoc
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response 29 of 100:
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Dec 25 18:12 UTC 1997 |
Valerie, your sitting position is so funny to me because from early teenaged
years on, that was my favorite sitting position. I eventually couldn't even
eat without sitting like that. I think I started it when I was playing
"jacks" or marbles and sat for hours with my legs out of the way. I am not
even sure if I can sit like that today. After I log 0ff, I will try it. I
had forgotten all about it, until reading your post, and it brought a smile
to my face.
Also Jan's posting before, that this has been his best year yet, brought a
smile to my face and my heart. I am so happy for both of you.
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beeswing
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response 30 of 100:
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Dec 27 18:47 UTC 1997 |
I think the only time I wish I were a guy is when I have to use a public
restroom. Nothing grosses me out more than having to put my tootie on some
toilet that looks like it hasn't been cleaned in 20 years. I always put toilet
paper over it but still. I know some women can squat but I am not one of them.
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abchan
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response 31 of 100:
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Dec 27 23:51 UTC 1997 |
The line to women's restrooms are usually much longer too. I remember going
into the men's room as a child (under 10) so I wouldn't have to wait.
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orinoco
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response 32 of 100:
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Dec 28 03:47 UTC 1997 |
I used to be able to do that kneeling thing, but I've gotten much stiffer the
past few years, and I can't anymore.
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beeswing
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response 33 of 100:
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Dec 28 07:17 UTC 1997 |
Ya, and the stalls are almost never big enough. Plus there is no place to put
your purse! I know most doors have hooks on the inside, but I am wary of them
because anyone can reach over and snatch your purse off the hook.
What is most vile is when I go to a public restroom and see that someone's left
a dirty pad on the floor or on the paper dispenser. Is it too difficult to use
the little wall canister designed for their disposal, or wad it up in toilet
paper and take it to the trash bin?
And while we're on the subject, ever notice that women will never do #2 in a
public restroom? I for one will wait until I get home, unless I'm sick or
something and it won't wait. Guys on the other hand will make no effort to
hide their magazine or whatever and stroll to the restroom, making sure
everyone knows why they were in there for 15 minutes!
(Sorry, I took NyQuil earlier and I think it's taken effect)
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birdlady
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response 34 of 100:
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Dec 28 07:51 UTC 1997 |
<grin>
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md
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response 35 of 100:
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Dec 28 13:03 UTC 1997 |
So one of the "nice things about being female" is the way your
character is tested and built upon by public toilets. I like that.
Next "nice thing," please.
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gracel
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response 36 of 100:
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Dec 28 21:49 UTC 1997 |
Comment on #33 -- our family made several comfort-station stops on the Ohio
and Indiana toll roads (Interstate 80) this past week, traveling to and from
Chicago area. The stalls had *both* coat hooks and (much lower) purse hooks --
with polite signs requesting that I use the purse hook to protect myself from
purse snatchers. The only problem was that my current purse has a *very* long
strap, and the purse sometimes dragged on the floor.
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birdlady
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response 37 of 100:
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Dec 28 22:49 UTC 1997 |
Our character is not tested and built upon by public toilets, Michael. It's
tested by how well we put up with others.
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beeswing
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response 38 of 100:
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Dec 28 23:01 UTC 1997 |
I dunno... public toilets can REALLY annoy me. :/
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aruba
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response 39 of 100:
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Dec 29 20:57 UTC 1997 |
I don't think Valerie's comment about women being more flexible than men is
trivial at all. I *really* wish I was more flexible, and I know I should work
at it, but it's often really painful to do so.
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beeswing
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response 40 of 100:
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Dec 29 21:10 UTC 1997 |
I am not all that flexible myself. Cartwheels and backhand springs are near
impossible for me. I can stretch a lot though... in taekwondo one of our
exercises was to sit like a butterfly, with the soles of our feet together.
Then we had to put our hands on our knees and try to push them to the floor.
Most couldn't quite get to the floor, but I did. I can also go beyond my feet
when I sit down and try to touch my toes.
But I also love the sound of joints popping, with the exception of fingers. Do
not crack your fingers around me, it annoys me to death. But I like it when my
neck, spine, toes, or hip joints pop. Feels good too.
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i
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response 41 of 100:
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Dec 29 23:56 UTC 1997 |
The women-more-flexible-than-men is a statistical thing, just women being
shorter than men. In HS gym class, i could make any of the gals in the
class (yep, coed) look like a arthritic couch potato on the soles together/
knees to floor stretch. But that was the ONLY thing i was much good at.
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aruba
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response 42 of 100:
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Dec 30 08:44 UTC 1997 |
I'm sure you're right, Walter, that there are lots of exceptions to the rule.
But I remember that when I used to stretch out with the track team in high
school that even the boys who had been running and stretching for several
years couldn't come close to the girls who were just starting out. Boy did
they lord it over us, too.
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clees
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response 43 of 100:
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Jan 6 15:58 UTC 1998 |
When it comes to stiffness I set a new standard.
My muscles are that short that I risk severe strains, which all is the result
of playing soccedr for more than twenty years without proper coaches around
to guide the young growing teenagers.
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mta
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response 44 of 100:
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Jan 8 23:44 UTC 1998 |
For all of its minor 9and ocasionally major) nuisances, I love being a woman.
Partly it's the motherhood thing -- and even the menstrual cycle thing. I
love the sensation of the changes in my body, subtle or obvious. I love the
sensations involved in carrying birthing, and nurturing my children. (The
conceiving part is lots of fun, too, of course.)
I love the way my body looks -- though I enjoy the way men look, too. I enjoy
dressing up and catching peoples eyes. (It seems to be innate -- women and
gay men look at women more than at men, too.) I love the way my body feels
when I wake up and stretch in the morning and the eay it feels when I dance,
too.
I love the fact that I have so many choices. I can dress to fit almost any
stereotype with relatively simple changes where a man has to make some choices
that are pretty limiting. (Men, for instance, can wear their hair at any
length, but if they do they pretty much give up the option of the "preppy
look" for work. They can wear their hair short -- but then they have trouble
carrying off the "rebel" look for weekends. etc.)
I can sit and wait for men to come to me -- or I can approach someone who
appeals to me.
I can, as Valerie said, cook, clean, and swab floors and/or go out and make
a good living. (Men *can* but often feel constrained to limit themselves.)
I can be flambouyant, emotional, or quiet. Men *can*, but will take a certain
amount of flack if they choose 'inappropriately'.
I love the fact that no one feels they have to cross the street when they see
e coming -- they just don't see me as threatening. But if I have to, I can
pull myself up to 20 feet tall and bluster and bellow and demand respect.
(I feel bad for guys who are *so* sweet and still, women fear them just
because of their plumbing.)
I adore clothes, makeup, and perfume. Because I'm a woman no one thinks
that's too strange. (Well, OK, some guys do, but they also accept that it's
so.) If I were a man, I'd have to contend with unwarranted assumptions about
my masculinity if I wanted to wear satin, ruffles, or velvet and perfume --
to say notjiong of makeup.
People are more open with me than they might be if I were a man. They assume
that I'm the sort of person they can trust with their feelings -- unless I
prove otherwise.
I love sex. And,as intriging as male sexuality is, I suspect that sex is more
pleasant for women. Seldom have I felt the driven need that I hear men
describe as the norm for their teenaged years. There's no pressure to
perform. Even if I'm not really up to par in the lust department, if I'm
feeling cuddly and affectionate I can fake it -- and as often as not I change
my mind and decide maybe I was interested after all. And even if I don't
decide I'm horny, sex can be a pleasant exhange anyway. Guys either are or
aren't interested.
I'm allowed to admire the human body in all its glory. I can admire women
and men and no one questions my sexuality. If I were a man, I'd have to be
careful about too openly admiring beautiful male bodies lest I get beat up
and called a fag or just make my male friends very uncomfortable.
One advantage that is really just more of a disadvantage to men than an
advantage to women: if I were to accidently concieve a child, and my partner
were very much against my having the child, I had the option of disappearing
while pregnant and raising the child by myself. Or I could abort without
telling my prtner there was ever a child to begion with. If I were a man,
and my partner conceived, I wouldn't have any guarantee 9other than the trust
between us) that I'd be allowed to have a voice in what happened. No matter
how much I wanted the child, she could walk away and abort or raise the child
without my knowledge. She could conceive accidently on purpose and then
pressure me into raising a child I wasn't prepared for.
I don't see any better way to handle that problem -- but I certainly see all
the advantages as being in the womens court.
I guess, though, that what it boils down to this: there are as many advantages
of various sorts to being male as there are to being female. I like myself
as I am, as what I am happens to be female, so I'm partial to those
advantages. I bet if I had 40 years of expereince with being male, I'd have
a very different perspective. :)
(Oh, another of those advanatges that are pretty trivial but I *really* enjoy.
No one has ever expected me to play fotball and hockey.)
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valerie
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response 45 of 100:
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Jan 9 06:17 UTC 1998 |
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clees
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response 46 of 100:
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Jan 9 13:21 UTC 1998 |
Thanks Misty, now you have made me jealous of women (wink)
Thanks Val, for mental support by naming a male "pro" (another w)
A good thing about being male is that to a certain extent you are allowed
to stay a little boy and refuse to grow up.
Which also can result in negative things like brawls.
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mta
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response 47 of 100:
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Jan 9 19:39 UTC 1998 |
Valerie the football player? Yikes! You're lucky you lived!
I guess that's an advantage that I put down to femaleness rather that where
it belonged - having a seizure disorder. I had uncontrollable seizures, so
my doctor decided that gym would be a "Bad Idea(tm)" and wrote me note
excusing me after I was diagnosed in the 3rd grade. Since my seizures weren't
controlled, he felt that most organized gym activities would be dangerous.
Imagine being out to lunch when a ball comes at you in Dodgeball, or while
up on a trampoline or gymnastics horse... Eeeeee!
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