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Grex > Cflirt > #17: Reparative therapy-- Change and healing is possible. | |
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senna
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response 23 of 84:
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Dec 29 07:08 UTC 2001 |
I agree. I think it's a moderately serious (that is, widespread and decidedly
inconvenient without threatening to destroy society) problem with men today
in our culture. I know a lot of guys who strongly prefger being in large
groups of members of the opposite sex to large groups of members of the same.
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jaklumen
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response 24 of 84:
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Dec 29 08:51 UTC 2001 |
*shrug* it might be a matter of personality type.
I'm not sure if you've heard of the color theory of organizing
personality types, i.e., red defines those who value competition, blue
for those who value relations and diplomacy, white nonconfrontation,
yellow fun and excitement-- and it would seem that much of what is
defined as masculine culture may favor the first two types of
personalities, i.e., red and blue, and more particularly red.
From what I have read and discussed with others, the dominant drive of
male culture *seems* to be competition. This works really well in
capitalistic business, and some of the mythos surrounding the founding
of America-- rugged individualism, for example-- may foster such a
drive. It would therefore be difficult to surround yourself with
those you would perceive to be rivals.
but that's one way of looking at it.
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michaela
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response 25 of 84:
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Dec 29 09:17 UTC 2001 |
I know a lot of girls who have more male friends than female friends. It goes
both ways.
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senna
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response 26 of 84:
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Dec 29 18:22 UTC 2001 |
My impression is that workplaces with an awful lot of women can be a stressful
place to work for those women.
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jaklumen
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response 27 of 84:
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Dec 30 11:40 UTC 2001 |
*nod* I figured the opposite was true, but wasn't quite sure as to
reasons why.
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oval
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response 28 of 84:
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Dec 31 00:14 UTC 2001 |
i find it odd that this "sexuality" conf is more about psychology than
sexuality with lots of sweeping gender generalizations.
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senna
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response 29 of 84:
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Dec 31 00:47 UTC 2001 |
So contribute your views if you don't like it.
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oval
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response 30 of 84:
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Dec 31 01:03 UTC 2001 |
humans are humans. women have cunts, men have cocks. drop the guilt, stick
it where you wanna and LIKE IT.
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phenix
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response 31 of 84:
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Dec 31 03:08 UTC 2001 |
i like oval:)
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cyklone
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response 32 of 84:
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Dec 31 03:26 UTC 2001 |
I vote yes!
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flem
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response 33 of 84:
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Dec 31 16:51 UTC 2001 |
I don't think it's odd that the sex conf is more about psychology and gender
issues than actual bumpin' and squishin'. There's only so many times you can
say "I like to cum on young girls' tits" before everyone stops caring.
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phenix
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response 34 of 84:
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Dec 31 17:18 UTC 2001 |
or stops bothering to call you a pedophile:)
but yha, it's all about the squishy luv thing
or at least about how fucked up you are
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senna
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response 35 of 84:
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Dec 31 21:30 UTC 2001 |
The real discussion comes from more complex issues that don't have easy
answers. Questions like "do you like it up the ass?" typically elicit
one-sentence answers with little room for elaboration. The question needs
more meat to it.
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jaklumen
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response 36 of 84:
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Dec 31 21:54 UTC 2001 |
and I suppose it can be amusing sometimes to think senna meant
something more when he said "more meat to it."
But seriously, I think we get enough of the joking and crude comments
that may come from misinformation about sex, or perhaps the attitudes
that surround various taboos. We're just attempting to talk
intelligently without feeling the need to coat it with raunch.
However, analyzing the issues to death is extreme in the other
direction; thus, I suppose, we attempt to discuss without psychobabble
or detached clinical stances. Honesty is good, but I think we are
trying to find a balance.
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lelande
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response 37 of 84:
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Jan 3 18:39 UTC 2002 |
30 oval
what happens when a human born a male is given a cunt through surgery as an
infant? what is this human, then?
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oval
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response 38 of 84:
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Jan 3 23:05 UTC 2002 |
does he keeo the cock?
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lelande
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response 39 of 84:
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Jan 5 21:59 UTC 2002 |
his cock got keyed, actually. all scratched. needed a new paint job.
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eskarina
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response 40 of 84:
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Apr 3 01:56 UTC 2002 |
I have a question.
Does anyone besides jaklumen have a clue what Exodus International is/does?
Everyone's doing it, I'll add a website: www.bridges-across.org
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phenix
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response 41 of 84:
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Apr 3 03:12 UTC 2002 |
wtf is it then
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brighn
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response 42 of 84:
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Apr 3 03:59 UTC 2002 |
Exodus International teaches gays to be straight.
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brighn
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response 43 of 84:
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Apr 3 04:00 UTC 2002 |
http://www.exodusnorthamerica.org/aboutus/
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jazz
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response 44 of 84:
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Apr 3 15:19 UTC 2002 |
This is terribly, terribly un-PC, but I think I have a handle on
another reason the idea of reparative therapy might be reasonable. I've run
into quite a number of people, personally, who have attractions to both
genders, but have had such strained relations, or one sufficiently strained
relation, with the opposite gender they've turned solely to the same gender.
Oftentimes they overly strongly identify with their new preference, touting
to the world that they're gay, as if in an effort to convince themselves.
I can't see a reason why curing those problems, and those strained relations,
through therapy *wouldn't* be a good thing.
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brighn
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response 45 of 84:
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Apr 3 15:30 UTC 2002 |
Oh, I agree. I think most people are born bisexual, though (or, at least, with
the capacity for bisexuality).
Anything which increases the amount of positive interactions you can have with
others isn't a bad thing.
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oval
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response 46 of 84:
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Apr 3 21:02 UTC 2002 |
do they reparative therapy for those who want to go from straight to gay?
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brighn
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response 47 of 84:
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Apr 3 21:48 UTC 2002 |
I haven't heard of it. The whole point is straight="fixed", gay="broken." You
don't repair things that aren't broken.
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