|
Grex > Agora35 > #72: Can you ever have too much skank? | |
|
| Author |
Message |
| 25 new of 47 responses total. |
scott
|
|
response 23 of 47:
| 
Oct 10 17:07 UTC 2000 |
Small towns quite don't have a record store besides the one at Wal-Mart or
other huge store. So if Wal-Mart decides not to carry something, it's at
least partially censored. Also, record companies will try to make releases
more "tipper friendly" to avoid losing sales from chain bans.
Can we say "chilling effect"?
|
tod
|
|
response 24 of 47:
|
Oct 10 17:14 UTC 2000 |
They already do that..that is, folks like Rob Zombie and Marilyn Manson.
But hey, if you want to chew bubble gum, you can have any flavor.
Personally, I go for the less palatable of main stream.
|
scg
|
|
response 25 of 47:
|
Oct 10 17:27 UTC 2000 |
On the other hand, requiring a private business such as WalMart to carry
things they don't want to carry would have pretty troubling free speech
consequences.
|
tod
|
|
response 26 of 47:
|
Oct 10 17:33 UTC 2000 |
I agree. Kind of like making a print shop do gay raffle tickets.
|
brighn
|
|
response 27 of 47:
|
Oct 10 17:39 UTC 2000 |
Rob Zombie and Marilyn Manson both came to fame far after the appearance of
the Tipper Sticker.
|
tod
|
|
response 28 of 47:
|
Oct 10 17:55 UTC 2000 |
No one put a gun to their head when Walmart asked for a more
mainstream edition of their hits. They did them.
Tipper Sticker?
Heck, I remember Al Gore asking our fellow Mensch, Dee Snyder, if he
felt the Twisted Sister lyrics were of "Christian Family Value" and
I remember the stare Dee made back at Al..the kind that burns holes
in leaves with a magnifying lense.
I'll take a Tipper sticker before I'll take a ProLife warmonger like
Cheney.
|
brighn
|
|
response 29 of 47:
|
Oct 10 18:48 UTC 2000 |
Me too. Hence my vote for Gore. One issue is not enough to change my vote.
|
ashke
|
|
response 30 of 47:
|
Oct 10 20:15 UTC 2000 |
No no no, todd...Prince Al asked what the fan club letters stood for and I
believe it was the Fucked up friends of twisted sister. And al asked if that
was a "Christian Group" and Dee said that he didn't think that religion
factored into it.
Tipper and Al did nothing but annoy me. Sitll annoy me on this issue. If
Wally World wants to stock different editions with the sticker (Like White
Zombies mix cd with the bikini or without (even though you really couldn't
see anything either way, she was in a hamock for god's sake)) it's rediculous.
We're making laws so that parent's do not have to take responsibility for what
is going on in the lives of their children.
Funny enough, I did a paper on this after columbine for a class I was taking.
And if you look, the transcripts from the hearings dating back to the
beginning in the 80's are availible on the web for free. Interesting reads,
for sure
|
senna
|
|
response 31 of 47:
|
Oct 11 00:01 UTC 2000 |
A large part of the public is clearly disgusted with the music they're buying
and the movies they are watching. The only organized "resistance" they can
come up with is voting in candidates with ridiculous views. It's a sad case
of an absence of middle ground. Hollywood steadfastly claims first ammendment
rights, consuming public steadfastly blames hollywood, congress can only limit
the first ammendment. Restraint and responsibility are cuss words in this
society.
|
mary
|
|
response 32 of 47:
|
Oct 11 00:34 UTC 2000 |
"A large part of the publis is clearly disgusted with the music they're
buying and the movies they are watching...".
So why don't they stop buying and watching already?
|
tod
|
|
response 33 of 47:
|
Oct 11 00:57 UTC 2000 |
re #30
Thanks for the clarification. My memory wasn't so hot, but I remembered
Al using religion as his divining rod.
|
gull
|
|
response 34 of 47:
|
Oct 11 04:08 UTC 2000 |
> If a proposal came through congress that said all web sites must be
> content rated, I'm not sure that I would trust Gore to do the right thing
> and veto such a bill. I'm not sure I would trust Bush to do so either.
> This bothers me.
--> No serious politician would, unfortunately. They'd all sign it to
ensure their political survival. In that sense the game is rigged; anyone
capable of getting elected will disagree with you on this.
|
md
|
|
response 35 of 47:
|
Oct 11 13:13 UTC 2000 |
Baloney.
|
tod
|
|
response 36 of 47:
|
Oct 11 18:15 UTC 2000 |
Bologna
|
md
|
|
response 37 of 47:
|
Oct 11 21:20 UTC 2000 |
That too.
|
ashke
|
|
response 38 of 47:
|
Oct 11 23:59 UTC 2000 |
re: 33. No prob. I just loved that look Dee had. I also liked the movie
Strangeland.
|
flem
|
|
response 39 of 47:
|
Oct 12 00:10 UTC 2000 |
re resp:32 et al. -- Unfortunately, they're not disgusted with what *they*
are buying and watching....
|
drew
|
|
response 40 of 47:
|
Oct 12 02:29 UTC 2000 |
So who should I vote for if I want to best promote a policy of "Let the people
run wild"?
|
mcnally
|
|
response 41 of 47:
|
Oct 12 02:40 UTC 2000 |
re #40: Max Frost.
(http://us.imdb.com/Plot?0063808)
|
senna
|
|
response 42 of 47:
|
Oct 12 04:35 UTC 2000 |
#32: Precisely my point.
|
happyboy
|
|
response 43 of 47:
|
Oct 14 06:58 UTC 2000 |
i am enjoying this conversation!
--satan
|
flem
|
|
response 44 of 47:
|
Oct 16 14:18 UTC 2000 |
Me, too. :)
|
otter
|
|
response 45 of 47:
|
Nov 1 13:47 UTC 2000 |
resp:22 - The thing I find chilling is the assumption that the people in
the small town have no choices.
They may choose to live in a place in which WalMart is the only music
store.
They may choose to travel to a larger town to make purchases.
They may choose to find web access and make purchases.
They may choose to only use AM radio as a music source.
No one is in a position (yet!) to dictate the bahavior of individuals. Ya
get what ya take.
|
scott
|
|
response 46 of 47:
|
Nov 1 14:40 UTC 2000 |
Certainly there are people in a position to dictate the behavior of
individuals. Those people are called "parents".
|
gull
|
|
response 47 of 47:
|
Nov 1 19:56 UTC 2000 |
Re #45: It's like I tell a friend of mind, when he complains about his lack
of DSL service..."It's a tradeoff. You made a choice to live way out in the
country. There are benefits and drawbacks. This is one of the latter."
|