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darkskyz
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response 228 of 257:
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Feb 5 01:22 UTC 2000 |
We are Linux of Borg. Ressistance is an indication you missed the point.
welcome aboard ;)
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scott
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response 229 of 257:
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Feb 5 01:40 UTC 2000 |
...but first I'm gonna need a less antique CD-ROM drive. :(
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pfv
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response 230 of 257:
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Feb 5 02:43 UTC 2000 |
Oh, come on.. Why? Mine is an antiquiated 2x with a proprietary
driver card!
So far, of every Distro I splurged on from Linux-Central, et al:
Redhat is the ONLY one that recognizes my drive - AND INSTALLS..
(SuSE "saw" it, but couldn't work with it for some freaky reason).
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scott
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response 231 of 257:
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Feb 5 13:57 UTC 2000 |
I'm a lamer, and I'm trying to install Caldera.
I've got DOS drivers, and Win95 recognizes it. But I've been vacillating over
buying a CD-RW for months now anyway.
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scott
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response 232 of 257:
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Feb 5 14:04 UTC 2000 |
However, I'm currently poking around the Caldera website to see if they
already have an answer. Hmmm, they have the drive listed, with a source and
object module listed. Now I just need to find out how to use that as a boot
option on install...
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scott
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response 233 of 257:
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Feb 5 16:19 UTC 2000 |
Chicken and egg problem. I need to rebuild the install kernel with cdu31a
(driver for my old Sony CD), but there doesn't seem to be any DOS tools to
do it with.
Apparently Linux autoprobing of this drive was disabled a few kernel revisions
ago. Hmm.
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pfv
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response 234 of 257:
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Feb 5 17:05 UTC 2000 |
Aren't you running linux now?
If you are running *nix, and can't see the cdrom to get the files
to REBUILD *nix, I've had to resort to downloading it - treating
the web itself as a big, slow-ass-hell cdrom ;-)
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scott
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response 235 of 257:
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Feb 5 21:21 UTC 2000 |
But can I rebuild a kernel from Windows? I've got the cdu31a.c and .o files,
I just haven't found how to apply them to the install floppy.
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pfv
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response 236 of 257:
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Feb 6 00:08 UTC 2000 |
You aren't GOING to find a way.. The diskette is either a
compressed linux image, or a version of minix with some tools.
What you are saying is that you don't have it installed at all,
and for some obtuse reason the install won't "see" your cdrom.
Such cd's make lovely coasters.. I have about nine myself.
If, otoh, yer trying to RUN LINUX from a cd, you're flat outta'
luck.
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gull
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response 237 of 257:
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Feb 6 03:23 UTC 2000 |
No, it sounds like the problem is none of the installation boot disks
support his CD-ROM, and of course he can't make his own without a working
Linux installation.
The best course is to go buy an IDE CD-ROM. My last one cost me about $35.
If that's absolutely out of the question, your best bet will be copying the
CD-ROM files to a DOS partition, and using that to install from -- assuming
you have the space, and your distribution allows that (most do.)
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scott
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response 238 of 257:
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Feb 6 13:57 UTC 2000 |
A new CD-ROM will be cheaper than more disk. ;)
At the moment I'm stuck deciding whether I should just buy something a bit
newer than ol' faithful P133.
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gull
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response 239 of 257:
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Feb 6 20:45 UTC 2000 |
I have a K5-133 that serves my purposes quite well. Of course, most of its
components are somewhat newer than the motherboard. (I can rarely afford to
replace a whole computer, so I tend to upgrade piecemeal. I find that to
usually be less disruptive for my purposes anyway.)
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scott
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response 240 of 257:
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Feb 6 23:26 UTC 2000 |
D'oh! There was a nice 540 MB disk lying around at work, but it must have
gone into a PC already.
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scott
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response 241 of 257:
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Feb 8 14:38 UTC 2000 |
We just got a brand new and empty server at work, so I brought in the Caldera
CDs and installed Linux on the new machine. Very slick, and YES, the keyboard
shortcuts in X work!!!! I'm probably going to just go and buy a new CD drive
for my home machine rather than try to force it.
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mcnally
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response 242 of 257:
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Feb 8 16:22 UTC 2000 |
which keyboard shortcuts would those be?
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scott
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response 243 of 257:
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Feb 8 19:05 UTC 2000 |
Basically, you don't need a mouse at all if keyboard shortcuts are properly
done. I was very happy to see that the KDE desktop that Caldera has seems
to cover everything, even being able to pop open the min/max/size/move menu
on each window.
It's one reason I hadn't gotten into Linux before, the need to be grabbing
a mouse more often than I like.
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orinoco
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response 244 of 257:
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Feb 8 21:21 UTC 2000 |
<raises eyebrow>
Wouldn't that be more of a problem with Windows? says the guy who's barely
used either....
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mcnally
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response 245 of 257:
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Feb 8 21:51 UTC 2000 |
Windows actually has pretty decent support for keyboard operation..
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mwg
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response 246 of 257:
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Feb 8 21:56 UTC 2000 |
re#241: You could just borrow an IDE drive from someone long enough to
get the install done, then fix for the old CD drive. (A fan of making
anything that still works do so, that's me.)
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scott
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response 247 of 257:
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Feb 8 22:58 UTC 2000 |
I went and bought a huge new drive because it looked like I'd want it (and
drives being cheap enough these days). I'm not sure how to prod the Lizard
installer into reading from a hard disk. Anyway, I sent the CD question into
Caldera, and I'm not in a huge rush.
Hey, if I was borrowing drive, why not just borrow an appropriate CD drive?
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mcnally
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response 248 of 257:
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Feb 8 23:26 UTC 2000 |
I believe that's what he meant.. Borrow an IDE CD-ROM drive..
They've started making them since the glory days of that old
Sony you're using.. ;-)
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scott
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response 249 of 257:
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Feb 9 02:36 UTC 2000 |
I'm still agonizing over whether to fork out the money for a CD-RW for $200.
I'm sure not going to pay $50 for a new CD reader.
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mcnally
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response 250 of 257:
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Feb 9 04:18 UTC 2000 |
you should be able to get a DVD-ROM drive (drive only, no MPEG decoder card)
for not much more than that $50. but if you're paying $50 for a new CD-ROM
these days you're paying too much (by a factor of two, almost..)
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scott
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response 251 of 257:
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Feb 9 12:30 UTC 2000 |
Dunno. $50 seemed to be the starting price in the stores I visited yesterday.
Nice drives, I guess, with ability to deal with all manner of CD-RW and such
at purportedly high speeds. I'm starting to lean towards getting the damn
CD-RW drive. I'll need some kind of backup with better capacity than Zip
disks, and RW media is now down to $3-4.
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drew
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response 252 of 257:
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Feb 10 03:31 UTC 2000 |
The advice on the net is not to use a CDRW drive for reading CDs, as it wears
out quicker that way, and CD readers can be had cheap - at least in principle.
Occasionally Best Buy has a sale/rebate offer wherein the CDROM can be had
for $20 - occasionally $10 - after rebate. Or else try going to computer
shows.
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