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lumen
response 225 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 25 00:00 UTC 2000

first of all: I'd like to see some sources on this-- i.e., some 
reputable musicological/music history references.  You haven't backed 
this notion up with a shred of scholarly evidence.

Personally, I sincerely doubt this notion, based on very personal 
knowledge.  You'll get it out of me the day you can climb into my head..
lumen
response 226 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 25 00:05 UTC 2000

..and read my thoughts.  At best, I see it as perhaps a secondary 
intention.

Did Handel himself write this idea down?  If not, maybe you'd better go 
ask him..
orinoco
response 227 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 25 01:31 UTC 2000

Okay, maybe this was a bad idea....

In our theory class, the professor was killing time at one point by
gossip-mongering about various composers, and he brought up a story about The
Harmonious Blacksmith being a tribute to an actual blacksmith who Handel was
shtupping at the time.  (And "shtupping" is his fault, not mine....).  I
thought it as amusing, so I remembered it, but I can't back it up, and neither
can my professor, in all likelihood.

Rather than bog the item down further, I'm just gonna hand it over to Paul
for being entertaining.
brighn
response 228 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 25 05:03 UTC 2000

I think Ori embedded it in enough disclaimers to demonstrate that he wasn't
trying to present historical fact, merely gossip.

Anyway, this is something of a trick, but maybe it's easy:
This Peter Gabriel song includes lyrics in English, French, and German.
gypsi
response 229 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 25 06:22 UTC 2000

What is "Games Without Frontiers?"
brighn
response 230 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 25 23:13 UTC 2000

I'm gonna need the title of the song that has German, too.
therein lies the trick =}
gypsi
response 231 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 26 02:21 UTC 2000

Huh?  Now I'm confused.  You said song...are there two songs, or like, a
second movement to a song..?  Was my answer wrong?  =)
brighn
response 232 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 26 14:52 UTC 2000

There is one song, from the standpoint that there is one three-minute-or-so
track on an album released by Peter Gabriel that has English, French, and
German in it.

And your answer is incomplete. That's what makes it a trick question. >=}

But yes, I'm thinking of a single song.
mcnally
response 233 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 26 17:23 UTC 2000

  What is the version of "Games Without Frontiers" on the german-language
  release of "Peter Gabriel III"?
brighn
response 234 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 26 20:09 UTC 2000

Should I be a prick and insist on the title in German?

Nah, that's good enough. =}

The English phrase in the German version: It's a knock-out.
The French phrase in both versions: Jeux sans frontieres.

It's McNally's turn, but bonus points for anyone who knows the relevance of
those two phrases to each other. ;}
mcnally
response 235 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 26 20:39 UTC 2000

  Doesn't it have something to do with French and/or English game shows?
mcnally
response 236 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 26 20:48 UTC 2000

  I should probably yield to gypsi, who was on the right track, but since
  (for once) I actually have a question ready:

  The category is "Original Names":

      This surf-rock band weren't "happy together", so they adopted
      another name and achieved much greater success recording another
      style of music.
bruin
response 237 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 26 20:51 UTC 2000

Who were The Turtles?
lumen
response 238 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 26 22:48 UTC 2000

but what was their original name?  (I'm curious)
katie
response 239 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 26 23:49 UTC 2000

Who are Flo and Eddie?
brighn
response 240 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 27 00:15 UTC 2000

yeah, Peter Gabriel was referencing a game show called "It's a knockout" in
Engliand and "Jeux Sans Frontieres" (= "Games Without Frontiers") in France,
the goal of which (I'm told) is to risk life and limb doing stupid stuff for
Big Cash Prizes!

The implication of the song being something along the lines of, like, you
jerks, we're NOT at war in Europe, so you guys are CREATING wars... 

I'd've given it to Gypsi, myself, but the French part was easy. The point that
Peter Gabriel recorded III and "Security" entirely in German is a bit more
obscure, and, well, weird. (And if anyone knows where I can get a hold of
Security in German, that would be cool... III is actually still kicking around
in the Import bins now and then, but the only time I've seen Security was my
brother's copy, years ago.)
mcnally
response 241 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 27 00:41 UTC 2000

  "The Turtles" are the name under which the band in question achieved
  success, as was indicated by the "happy together" clue, but the name
  of the category is "Original Names", so "The Turtles" is not an 
  acceptable answer.

  Flo & Eddie were members of the Turtles, but that's not the band name
  I'm looking for.

  The band in question produced at least one "classic" surf instrumental
  which is frequently anthologized and probably familiar to devoted fans
  of the genre, however the track in question is not as widely known as
  "Wipeout" or "Pipeline".
gypsi
response 242 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 28 01:50 UTC 2000

Ooh ooh ooh!  Who are the Safaris?
brighn
response 243 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 28 06:54 UTC 2000

The ORIGINAL name: (Who are) the Nightriders?
Their second name, and perhaps the one mcnally wants: (Who are) the
Crossfires?
Their third name: (Who are) the Tyrtles?

This from CDNow's biography of the Turtles. =}
krj
response 244 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 28 16:06 UTC 2000

  ((Peter Gabriel's 4th album is only called "Security" in America.
    Leslie brought back a German-language edition of the 4th album from
    Austria in Summer 1999, so it should still be available.  
    Looks like the German web CD firm www.musicexpress.com lists it.))
brighn
response 245 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 28 17:05 UTC 2000

ah, so it does. and it's not that expensive... perhaps I'll order it.
mcnally
response 246 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 30 18:24 UTC 2000

  Paul gets points for completeness, then loses them for admitting he
  looked it up..  Nevertheless he has the right "question", and thus 
  wins the dubious honor of posting the next "answer".
brighn
response 247 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 30 20:24 UTC 2000

hey, ain't no rules against doin' research. =}
brighn
response 248 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 30 20:29 UTC 2000

oh, you guys want a clue...

This folkpop singer made an avant-garde error when he covered a popular heavy
metal song that was still getting airplay.
raven
response 249 of 644: Mark Unseen   May 31 06:39 UTC 2000

Who is pat Boone?  I know he covered some heavy metal song recently (maybe
Metallica?)

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