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keesan
response 225 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 15 21:08 UTC 2005

Several people in Ann Arbor would stop being paying members if the lines were
discontinued.  Which might leave grex financially behind not ahead.
tod
response 226 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 15 21:40 UTC 2005

Isn't there an alternative to Grex having its own dialups?
mary
response 227 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 15 22:59 UTC 2005

Rane, Grex no longer has a dedicated staff dial-in line. That was 
disconnected quite a while ago as we felt it simply wasn't being used 
enough to warrant the expense.
mary
response 228 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 15 23:05 UTC 2005

Now, as to whether staff would ever elect to dial-in to fix a problem if 
Grex was off the net?  Don't know.  I suspect it would be easier to simply 
go to Provide than deal with such slow and painful access, but someone on 
staff should probably answer that one.
tod
response 229 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 15 23:29 UTC 2005

Beuller? Beuller...
drew
response 230 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 03:40 UTC 2005

Re #220:
    Long distance can be had cheap enough
now, and modems are fast enough, that
this is much less of a problem.
root
response 231 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 06:51 UTC 2005

I think I may have found the problem and have rolled out a fix.
Can someone more local than myself here in Tokyo please give
the line a ring and let me know whether it is working now?
bhoward
response 232 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 07:24 UTC 2005

Silly me, I forgot my powerbook has a modem.  For the first and
problem last time, I put it to use, and have been successfully 
able to dial in.

Emjoy!
gull
response 233 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 08:27 UTC 2005

I think the dialin lines are a valuable service for some people, and I'd
hate to see them go away entirely just yet.  It will be the end of an
era, when they do.
bhoward
response 234 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 08:35 UTC 2005

Re#232 
s/problem/probably/
s/Emjoy/Enjoy/
tsty
response 235 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 09:38 UTC 2005

what;s with the spam-spew lately? 
mary
response 236 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 10:52 UTC 2005

Thanks, Bruce.  Very nice.
keesan
response 237 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 14:32 UTC 2005

Worked perfectly, and nearly instantly.
slynne
response 238 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 14:33 UTC 2005

Bruce, you rock
remmers
response 239 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 16:50 UTC 2005

Excellent.  Thanks, Bruce!
albaugh
response 240 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 19:12 UTC 2005

> If Grex is "NOT AN INTERNET PROVIDER" it seems that there is not much of a
> reason to keep dialup lines.

Your logic is backwards - *because* grex is not an ISP its primary purpose of
being a BBS must be supported via the ability to connect via direct dial.
It just so happens that because grex is good enough to support e-mail to/from
the internet that connection into grex from the internet is also supported
(as well as access to the internet from grex in the limited fashion of lynx).
tod
response 241 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 19:19 UTC 2005

What happens when modems and Internet get replaced with some form of wifi?
Will Grex oldskoolers still demand their 9600 baud in the name of charter
semantics for "BBS"?
kingjon
response 242 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 19:22 UTC 2005

I highly doubt that will ever happen unless Congress decides to get
into the ISP business and provide every citizen with whatever passes
for Internet then.  An Internet connection costs money, while Grex
doesn't.

albaugh
response 243 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 19:36 UTC 2005

While direct dial access to a remote computer system remains viable, and many
people still use it / depend on it, then yes, for such people in the Ann Arbor
area, grex should still support it.  A large percentage of people with
internet access connect to it via dial-up anyway, I'll warrant.
marcvh
response 244 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 19:41 UTC 2005

Roughly 65% of Internet users (in the US) have broadband, so yes, people
without it comprise a significant fraction.
keesan
response 245 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 20:59 UTC 2005

I heard 50%.  Maybe you are counting people who use it at work.
marcvh
response 246 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 21:20 UTC 2005

Nope, just home users.  Your 50% figure was accurate in August of 2004
but it's grown considerably since then, and is projected to break 70% by
February.
keesan
response 247 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 01:11 UTC 2005

We know two people living in subsidized housing with broadband.  One also pays
for cable TV.  No wonder there are so many enormous web pages around.  Ebay
is not the worst of them.
keesan
response 248 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 01:44 UTC 2005

I really appreciate dialup access.  No more frequent 1-2 min stalls, or
having what I type appear at random intervals, or unpredictable disconnects.
My 'ISP' (WCC) is not much better than grex as it used to be, this month.
krj
response 249 of 276: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 06:30 UTC 2005

Telnet daemon may be down.  Telnet in is broken, SSH works.
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