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rcurl
response 225 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 16:25 UTC 2004

Safire expressed more eloquently than I have my sense that this movie is a
piece of the same anti-semitic "tradition" of the classic passion plays. 
It is also an example of "religious excess" - carrying aspects of
religious mythology way too far as a means of emphasis. But here these
seeming "traditionalists" go too far. They are the ones that complain that
violence depicted in movies creates a society more tolerant of violence. 
How can they applaud this extreme excess of violence? 

albaugh
response 226 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 18:37 UTC 2004

> Once that button ["Jesus"] is pushed a whole bunch of people go
> into mental lock-step like zombies.

Really, rcurl, such caustic generalizations don't become you.
rcurl
response 227 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 20:04 UTC 2004

Well, I did feel that I had perhaps gone too far with that one. But
there is a variety of religious fanaticism that obscures peoples'
senses of proportion (is that a kinder way of saying the same thing?). 
I think Passion dips into that kind of fanaticism.
twenex
response 228 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 23:58 UTC 2004

"the pope [is] full of hooey". Well, someone once said that 95% of everthing
is crap, which I suppose means that (a) most of us are capable of a lot hooey;
(b) moany of us are full of hooey; (c) a small proportion of us are
responsible for a disporportionate amount of hooey. I wonder which bru agrees
with?
tod
response 229 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 00:02 UTC 2004

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twenex
response 230 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 00:12 UTC 2004

If it could, the GOP would be the party *least* interested in lessening
America's dependence on foreign oil and ruining Alaska.
jmsaul
response 231 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 02:29 UTC 2004

Re #224:  Safire is talking about Catholic doctrine before Vatican II.  He
          lives on the same planet you do, but he's better read, apparently.
richard
response 232 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 02:35 UTC 2004

this is the MOVIE REVIEW item...can we move the religious discussion drift
to a new item?  what movies have you seen lately?
jmsaul
response 233 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 02:38 UTC 2004

Unfortunately, none.  The current crop of movies doesn't look interesting to
me.
bru
response 234 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 03:08 UTC 2004

I kniow what he was talking about Joe.  But I spent 8 years in a Christian
SChool during that period.  While not catholic, I did grow up in a catholic
neighborhood.  I always found the catholics reatehr demented in their
attitude, what with being able to commit sins and then go to confession and
be absolved.

But I never heard any schools or churches in our area that blamed Jews for
the death of Jesus during that period, either before or after.
aruba
response 235 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 03:55 UTC 2004

We saw "The Triplets of Belleville" at the Michigan Theater tonight.  It was
weird.
albaugh
response 236 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 18:06 UTC 2004

I didn't know that Belleville had anything interesting enough going on to make
a movie about.  Well, maybe the Strawberry Festival...  ;-)
remmers
response 237 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 18:09 UTC 2004

Right, the Belleville I know is *so* dull that only Michelangelo Antonioni
would consider making a movie about it.
tod
response 238 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 19:58 UTC 2004

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aruba
response 239 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 20:20 UTC 2004

A passion play is a re-encatment of the Christ story.  There is a village in
southern Germany called Oberamergau, which, through some twist of fate, was
spared being hit by the plague in the 1300s.  Ever since, in thanks to God,
they enact a big huge passion play every year.  It's a big tourist
attraction, I gather.

The movie "Triplets of Belleville" doesn't specify where Belleville is, but
it's certainly on the seacoast, and it has a statue that looks like a short,
fat version of the Statue of Liberty in the harbor.  So draw your own
conclusions.
salad
response 240 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 20:40 UTC 2004

The airport in belleville sucks compared to the one in Trenton
twenex
response 241 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 21:03 UTC 2004

Passion plays originated in mediaeval times, not in the 1930s.
tpryan
response 242 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 21:04 UTC 2004

        Sorry have to skip over 55 responses in 3 days.
tod
response 243 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 21:04 UTC 2004

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jmsaul
response 244 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 22:19 UTC 2004

(They're an older tradition than that, but Tod's right about how they were
used.)
tod
response 245 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 00:37 UTC 2004

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jmsaul
response 246 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 23:51 UTC 2004

>Jews kidnapped and murdered Christian children
> in ritual sacrifice; the blood of pure Christians was needed by Jews to
> make matzoh.

This seems like a ridiculous and archaic rumor, but it's been published in
the Arab press within the past few years.  So this crap isn't dead.
twenex
response 247 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 23:52 UTC 2004

if there's anywhere this crap ain't dead, it's in what the (comedic ) Prince
Regent (in Blackadder) called "Jolly Arab Land".
tod
response 248 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 23:53 UTC 2004

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richard
response 249 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 03:20 UTC 2004

Hey Starsky and Hutch is opening tomorrow, with Ben Stiller as Starsky and
Owen Wilson as Hutch-- TV Land is even having a Starsky and Hutch marathon
tonight. That was one of the campier tv shows of the mid/late seventies. The
movie is getting good revies, and yes, Paul Michael Glaser and David Soul--
the REAL Starsky and Hutch-- get cameos
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