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mary
response 225 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 11 12:57 UTC 2001

What was that ending about?  He obviously hadn't gone back in time
so it must have been forward.  And if forward were they suggesting
the apes built Washington D.C. exactly as humans would have had
humans been dominant?  Almost exactly.
scott
response 226 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 11 13:09 UTC 2001

My guess is that the ending is something of a joke.
mary
response 227 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 11 17:49 UTC 2001

Which is?
scott
response 228 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 11 22:42 UTC 2001

The "back on Earth" part.
scott
response 229 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 11 22:50 UTC 2001

Oh, you what the joke itself is?  Dunno.  Maybe it's another reference to the
original?
mary
response 230 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 11 23:19 UTC 2001

I think that there must have been a discussion like this somewhere
during the production of "Planet of the Apes".

Director:  Hey, what's with this ending, dude?  Like how does it
           get tied to the rest of the plot?  Did he, like go back
           in time or way forward?  

Producer:  Right, the screenwriter is working on that one, right, dude?

Screenwriter:  Er, sure, but the movie is due in the theaters in about
               two weeks and we're done shooting and I can't seem to make
               any of what we've got bridge the plot to that ending.

Producer:  Yeah, but it's a great ending.  Maybe nobody will ask about it.
           I mean, we've given 'em great costumes and makeup, that should
           be plenty.  

Screenwriter:  Plenty.  Besides, it's a revisualization, right?  Doesn't
               that mean the plot isn't our problem?

Director:  Whatever.  When do I get paid?
danr
response 231 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 12 13:28 UTC 2001

I have a different take on it, of course. "Alternate universes" are a 
common idea in science fiction. In going back through the storm, he 
didn't end up in the universe he left, but rather an alternate. 

I may be reading too much into it, but I think the idea is that he 
should have stayed where he was. He leapt from the frying pan into the 
fire.
scott
response 232 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 12 13:34 UTC 2001

I think the best comment I've seen is that the ending was a deliberate
attempt to screw up a sequel.
mary
response 233 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 12 17:22 UTC 2001

Your alternate universe would have included the same alpha ape and also
the same architects responsible for our universe's national monuments?

Nay, I see this as "if we dazzle 'em with costumes the plot won't
matter".  I'd rather a good plot.
danr
response 234 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 12 22:25 UTC 2001

You obviously never read comic books, Mary. In the Superman comics, for 
example, they had a Bizarro universe that every once in a while the 
regular Superman would go and visit. It resembled our universe very 
closely, but with the Bizarro twist. It's in that light, that I 
interpreted the ending.
jclock80
response 235 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 13 02:30 UTC 2001

I seroupsly thouhgt that AI lacked the influence from Kubrick that it could
have had. It was obviously a SPielberg flick. Also, there were several times
they could have ended the movie, but didn't. After a while it just seemed to
drag on and on and on and on. I liked how the aliens were portrated and I
enjoyed the performance by Jude Law. All in all, I wouldn't rate it more than
an "okay".
mary
response 236 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 13 02:46 UTC 2001

You are right, Dan, I didn't read comic books.  And I'm glad you 
like the movie.
orinoco
response 237 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 13 16:56 UTC 2001

When you get down to it, it's still an illogical ending, but it's the sort
of illogical ending that has a long tradition behind it in sci-fi writing.
Maybe that's why they thought they could get away with it.
lelande
response 238 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 14 21:08 UTC 2001

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i went bald watching AI. somehow, though, i think it's worth suggesting that
the aliens at the end weren't aliens at all, but were the future descendants
of supersupertoys. i'm not suggesting this just to explain the scholastic
british accents on the suckers. the deus ex machina alien/robot says something
about the first one, the original, or some business that suggests they're
descendant beneficiaries of "the genius of the human race", not visitors.
scott
response 239 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 14 22:24 UTC 2001

I thought it was obvious that the "aliens" were extremely advanced robots.
senna
response 240 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 14 22:25 UTC 2001

That was the implication I was aware of as well.
lelande
response 241 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 14 22:39 UTC 2001

several people have told me they thought they were aliens. one person was
vehement about it. when first introduced to them, i thought they were aliens,
too.
i thought AI would've been better if it ended with the camera pulling away
from david (was that his name?) underwater, praying to the blue fairy,
implicatively forever.
ashke
response 242 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 19 02:23 UTC 2001

I just got back from the Sneak Preview of "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back"
It was WONDERFUL!  Completely wonderful.  If you liked Clerks, Mallrats,
Chasing Amy, and/or Dogma, you'll love this one.  Picking out and finding the
cameos by former actors and people Kevin Smith just likes is fun too.

I could have stuck around for "The Others" but I didn't want to see it.  They
could have picked a better movie to follow.  
krj
response 243 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 19 04:16 UTC 2001

Leslie and I just got back from "The Closet," at the Michigan Theater
for the next few days.  Daniel Autiel is a shlub who is about to lose 
his job; to keep from being fired, he starts to pretend he's gay.
Gerard Depardieu is an overly macho office manager, and 
Thierry Lhermitte starts to manipulate the situation.  (Ack, I haven't
seen Thierry Lhermitte in a film since "My New Partner," 15 years ago.)

arabella and krj give it two thumbs up, and the audience was quite
responsive.  Should appeal to people who miss the imported French films
which used to flow into American theaters.   (Like us.)
jep
response 244 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 20 16:37 UTC 2001

I took my 5 year old son and 14 year old niece to see "Princess Diaries" 
yesterday.  I thought it was a real nice movie; a Cinderella story 
comparable to "Pretty Woman".  In fact, they have practically the same 
plot.

I won't be giving much away if I tell you "Princess Diaries" is about an 
unpopular high school girl who finds out by surprise she's the crown 
princess and heir apparent of a European country.  Julie Andrews plays 
her grandmother, the queen, and does a pretty good job.
eeyore
response 245 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 20 18:24 UTC 2001

I kinda want to see it.  My roomie said that ht e book was really good.
tpryan
response 246 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 20 22:37 UTC 2001

        I thought it would sorta be like "My Fair Lady", but in this
case the pupil becomes the teacher.
fitz
response 247 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 21 10:28 UTC 2001

Osmosis Jones - D

Live action and cartoons try for gross-out humor as Bill Murray's immune
system fights an infectious disease.  The organ related advertising humor is
clever and just about the only risible element in the movie.

I paid matinee prices and felt cheated.  It's not worth renting either.  The
only backward compliment is that it isn't seriously offensive.
ric
response 248 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 21 16:27 UTC 2001

We almost went to see it, but I didn't really want to, and thankfully American
Pie II wasn't sold out.

I don't expect to see Osmosis Jones even if it comes to the dollar theater.
brighn
response 249 of 284: Mark Unseen   Aug 21 16:56 UTC 2001

Saw "Rush Hour 2" last night. Enjoyable, comparable to the first one (although
I think I liked this one better).
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