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gelinas
response 225 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 28 13:01 UTC 2003

uh, yeah, you do: wasting energy on the impossible is seldom a good idea.

The times I've looked at my taillights, they've been through-bolted; there
are screw-sized holes holding the assembly in place. Often, there has been
a backing plate protecting the contents of the trunk from snagging on the nuts
and ends of the screws.

It's dark in there.  You wouldn't be able to see where to kick, either.
gull
response 226 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 28 13:08 UTC 2003

It's far fetched, but I can see how this would work on *some* modern
cars, where the tail lights are flimsy plastic assemblies bolted through
into the trunk.  On my Honda there are large cut-outs in the sheet metal
to allow the tail light reflectors to protrude in.

On the other hand, on most cars pulling out a tail light bulb would be
easy, and if the headlights are on it would at least give you some light
in there to look for a way to release the lid.  You might as well pull
both, and hope maybe a cop will pull the guy over for an equipment
violation.
tod
response 227 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 28 13:18 UTC 2003

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rcurl
response 228 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 28 15:44 UTC 2003

What people *have* done is get out their cell phone and called 911. I
wonder why that list did not include carrying a cell phone on your
body. 
cmcgee
response 229 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 28 15:56 UTC 2003

Ann Arbor Science Festival For 5th-8th Grade Girls.

Sally Ride Science Club is sponsoring a Festival in Ann Arbor September 20th.

11:30 to 4:30 at the UofM.  Last year it was held at the EECS bui8lding on
North Campus.  Sally herself is the keynote speaker, with workshops and a
streetfair.  There are adult workshops as well.  

Registration $18 in advance, $25 at the gate, if there are spaces left.

register:
www.SallyRideFestivals.com
or
1 800 561 5161
tod
response 230 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 28 16:15 UTC 2003

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scott
response 231 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 16:21 UTC 2003

Probably the most useful thing, aside from a cell phone (smart kidnappers will
take it away from you) would be a little flashlight, like a Maglight Solitaire
or one of those button-cell LED lights.  Then you can at least see the inside
of the trunk while you look for things to kick loose.
rcurl
response 232 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 17:39 UTC 2003

The LED light I have on my keychain requires continuous pressure to light.
It might be better to have one with a switch that does not require occupying
a hand to activate. 

If you are really paranoid, you could keep a separate cell phone in the trunk.

Or (why didn't I think of this sooner) drive a station wagon......
cross
response 233 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 20:34 UTC 2003

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rcurl
response 234 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 20:40 UTC 2003

What are you  trying to do - embarrass us into dropping this thread?
cmcgee
response 235 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 21:02 UTC 2003

cross, you're in for a surprise.
mcnally
response 236 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 21:36 UTC 2003

  re #233:  I have, I have!
cross
response 237 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 22:29 UTC 2003

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jor
response 238 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 22:46 UTC 2003

        no, the embarrassment is, no trunk music yet.
tod
response 239 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 23:17 UTC 2003

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scott
response 240 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 23:50 UTC 2003

Well, I wouldn't expect anybody to realistically carry around a "trunk escape
tool" just in case they were abducted.  But a little pocket flashlight is
quite handy anyway, and knowledge is usually even easier to carry around with
you.
cross
response 241 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 23:52 UTC 2003

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carson
response 242 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 00:46 UTC 2003

(I've never been forcibly kidnapped, but various friends from high school
can attest to my trunk-riding skills, word.  balee dat.)
mcnally
response 243 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 01:27 UTC 2003

 > (2) #233/242:    Dan Cross (cross)  Fri, Aug 29, 2003 (16:34)
 >  By a show of hands, how many grex users have ever been forcibly kidnapped
 >  and thrown in the trunk of a car by unknown villains?
 > 
 > (2) #236/242:    Mike McNally (mcnally)  Fri, Aug 29, 2003 (17:36)
 >  re #233:  I have, I have!
 > 
 > (2) #237/242:    Dan Cross (cross)  Fri, Aug 29, 2003 (18:29)
 >  No, I'm serious; has this really happened to someone?  If so, inquiring
 >  minds want to know all about it!

 I'm serious, too.  I don't know if the Ann Arbor News makes its archives
 available for free browsing (I rather doubt it) but if you were to go back
 to the last week of October, 1993, you'd find a story with the headline
 "Gunmen Rob Man, Force Him Into Trunk" describing the incident, or you can
 go to http://www.state.mi.us/mdoc/asp/otis2profile.asp?mdocNumber=223282
 to see the one of my kidnappers who still remains in prison (the others,
 Fortson and Wilson, cut plea bargains but Pryor wasn't offered any deals
 as he'd been on parole for unarmed robbery when he decided to upgrade to
 armed robbery & kidnapping.)
slynne
response 244 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 03:11 UTC 2003

whoa. that must have been really scary
mcnally
response 245 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 05:14 UTC 2003

  re #244:  
  >  whoa. that must have been really scary

  It mostly just seemed unreal at the time.  There was a definite feeling
  of "I can't believe ths is happening," even after I'd been whacked on the
  back of the head with a pistol butt..

  The way I look at it now, years after the incident, is that it really
  helps put the minor things in perspective.  Even when things aren't going
  well at all, it always helps to be able to tell myself "OK, things kind
  of suck at the moment but at least I'm not locked in the trunk of my own
  car by guys who've bragged that they are going to kill me.."  Even in the
  bleakest moments a shot of perspective like that almost never fails to
  give me a lift..

  Anyway, I might only have one evening more's experience in my car trunk
  than the people with the helpful safety suggestions but I believe I can
  still safely say that for the most part they're talking out of their ass.

jaklumen
response 246 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 06:54 UTC 2003

resp:232 that's how it is with LED lights, I suppose.  I don't like 
Maglight Solitaires much-- they don't light well and don't hold 
together.  I just didn't have a good experience with mine.
oval
response 247 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 13:00 UTC 2003

i have been held hostage in my bedroom by my housemate's schizophrenic sister
who was hiding from the cops outside my door. 

jmsaul
response 248 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 13:58 UTC 2003

Re #246:  Cabela's sells a keychain LED light with a metal body and a switch
          that will either do intermittent or constant on.  Very bright for
          its size, too.
tod
response 249 of 335: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 19:58 UTC 2003

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