|
|
| Author |
Message |
| 7 new of 216 responses total. |
aaron
|
|
response 210 of 216:
| 
Nov 14 15:02 UTC 2000 |
At the court hearing on the deadline for return of the recount, it was
pointed out that there are two contrary provisions of Florida election law,
one stating that vote counts returned after the seven-day deadline must be
excluded, and one stating that they *may* be excluded. The judge was
reportedly curious as to why the 7-day deadline was so important, when the
election could not be concluded until Friday due to write-in votes. The
state did not have a good answer. The judge was also curious as to how the
contest procedure set forth by statute could be observed in a county as
large as Palm Beach County, if the time constraints prevented any manual
recount from being conducted. Apparently, the state tried to argue that the
need for finality overrides the need to conduct full recounts. A ruling
is supposed to be issued at 10:30 this morning.
Somebody told me that Gore is introverted by nature, and is uncomfortable
with his public personality. His "reinventing himself" may be more of a
reflection of that discomfort, and his trying to find a comfort level, than
anything else.
|
janc
|
|
response 211 of 216:
|
Nov 14 15:50 UTC 2000 |
Apparantly several Florida counties, including Palm Beach, have halted the
manual recounts, being intimidated by the threats not to count any counties
that turn in their results after 5pm today.
Another crystal ball prediction: Jeb Bush is *not* getting re-elected in
Florida after this campaign by the Florida Republicans to not count the votes
of their constituents. I predict a "count *this* vote, Mr Bush" movement.
A musical interlude:
An exerpt from "Duet for One" from Leonard Bernstein's "White House Cantata"
in which the same singer sings the role of the outgoing First Lady Julia
Grant and the incoming First Lady Lucy Hayes. Rutherford Hayes ran against
Tilden in an election that has vague points of familiarity. Read Clinton
for Grant, and variously Bush/Gore for Hayes/Tilden.
MRS GRANT:
Is it Hayes or is it Tilden?
Somehow no one seems to know.
Thirteen weeks for counting ballots
I would say is rather slow.
I have packed up all the bourbon,
Told them where to send the mail,
While the people march in circles
Wondering who the hell to hail!
CHORUS:
Hail! Who?
Hail! Who?
Hail to the man who...
Hail!
Without whom...
Hail!
Who needs no...
Hail!
The man I am proud to...
Hail!
It gives me....
Hail!
I give you...
Rutherford B. Hayes!
MRS. GRANT:
Not Rutherford B. Hayes!
CHORUS:
Hail Hayes!
Praise Hayes!
MRS. GRANT:
Good God.
[...]
MRS. GRANT:
He's making the oath a four-letter word,
And making the eagle a hawk.
He thinks no one knows what really occured,
But I do and I'm dying to talk. Yah!
They counted the ballots and when they were done.
Oo ow! Oo ow!
Far behind Tilden had Rutherford run.
Meow! Meow!
So they counted again, again one by one,
They counted and counted 'til Rutherford won.
And now
That dow
Is the
MRS. HAYES:
First lady, first lady,
Very first lady of the land.
The bouquet of bouuquets,
I'm the whole U.S.A.'s
Lucy Hayes!
|
brighn
|
|
response 212 of 216:
|
Nov 16 00:04 UTC 2000 |
The relevant statute regarding yesterday's deadline in Florida has the modal
MAY: Votes turned in after 5pm on the 7th day after the election MAY be
ignored, and the Election Official for the state MAY use the records already
on file. MAY. NOT MUST.
There's no contradiction. If the county officials take too long getting their
results in, the Sec. of State has the right to ignore them. If the county
officials are taking a while because of recount issues, the Sec. of State is
obliged to use his/her discretion as to whether to accept them. The judge
reiterated exactly what the statute says: Get your votes in on time, or give
us a damn good reason why they're not in on time; otherwise, you lose the
right to be counted.
|
janc
|
|
response 213 of 216:
|
Nov 16 02:03 UTC 2000 |
Correction to #211: In the Mrs Grant calls Mrs Hayes, a "cow" not a "dow".
|
klg
|
|
response 214 of 216:
|
Dec 19 01:19 UTC 2000 |
Al Gore has won the election ...for district director of the Marion Soil and
Water Conservation Board in Salem, Ore. No one ran for the post, so write-ins
ruled the day. Gore won with 23 of the 4,570 votes cast, easily beating George
W. Bush, who also got some votes. "Voters don't understand what it means when
they write in a silly name," said Marion County Clerk Al Davidson. "But it's
their right, and it's their tax dollars that pay for it." The Vice President
cannot actually take the job, however, since to serve "you have to own or
manage land in the zone," Davidson said. Gore actually came in second, but
vote winner Donald Duck was disqualified because he's an animated character.
(AP) ...Which is something no one has ever said about Gore.
|
scg
|
|
response 215 of 216:
|
Dec 19 08:01 UTC 2000 |
Can they ban non-property holders from elected office? I thought that sort
of thing had gone out a long time ago.
He probably would at least have to be a registered voter in teh district,
though.
|
polygon
|
|
response 216 of 216:
|
Dec 19 18:26 UTC 2000 |
Re 215. Some special purpose districts are allowed to have other voting
or officeholding qualification standards. I presume this is an example of
that.
|