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25 new of 256 responses total.
steve
response 204 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 04:21 UTC 1995

   I think that if anything is to be done to music, it should be
restarted.  I hope there is enough room for all types of music in
the conference.
chelsea
response 205 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 03:53 UTC 1995

Hmmm.  And I've often secretly wished classical music could have 
its very own conference.  No matter how slowly it would grow.
popcorn
response 206 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 04:31 UTC 1995

I hear ya.  That's kinda how we ended up with a plants conference.  I'd
wanted it a lot, for a long time, even though it could well have been
tucked away in the nature conference.
md
response 207 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 16:12 UTC 1995

I agree with chelsea.  Let's have a classical music conference.
I nominate chelsea as fw.  There are some items in the current
music conference that could be linked to classical and then
killed in music.  I also agree with chelsea that rate of growth
should not be a concern.  
rcurl
response 208 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 17:06 UTC 1995

Would anything be done to indicate that the current music cf is no longer
a place to post classical music items? Would it be renamed? Do we really
want to segregate music categories?
remmers
response 209 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 20:35 UTC 1995

Since new specialized music conferences are under discussion, I think
that as a courtesy, the fw's of the existing music conference should be
alerted, so that they have an opportunity for input into the
discussion.  Not all fw's read coop, nor should they be expected to.

I think such notification should be done whenever a proposed conference
would have significant overlap with a conference that already exists,
and is probably rightly a cfadm job.

Hey, I'm a cfadm aren't I.  Guess I'll go mail the music fw's.
carson
response 210 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 22:24 UTC 1995

I remember when the music conference was big enough for all of us...
chelsea
response 211 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 22:54 UTC 1995

It is big enough for all of us.  That has nothing to do with why
I'd appreciate classical music having its own conference.  Maybe
one out of every 20 or 30 responses has to do with classical music.
That's a lot of wading to get to something of interest.  Now, don't
get me wrong, I like rap, and folk, and alternative, and rock, and
monk music just fine.  But here, on Grex, I'm only interested in
discussions on classical music.  Mostly, I just want to read Delizia's
responses. ;-)

So, segregating classical music would just be a nice convenience. I'm not
going to champion the cause or get into any down-and-ugly debates about
the thing.  But the idea of a classical music conference is appealing and
if others thought so too I'd support the concept. 

Michael would make a fine FW.
popcorn
response 212 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 16 04:53 UTC 1995

Hey eldrich?  Don't let us drown you out here: what are your
current thoughts about an alternative music conference?
md
response 213 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 16 13:48 UTC 1995

I'm deeply flattered that chelsea wants to read my responses,
and I humbly accept the position of fairwitness of the new
classical mus...  [md slaps himself in the face]  Oh no you
don't, Mary.  I second my nomination of chelsea for fw.
popcorn
response 214 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 16 15:22 UTC 1995

If you definitely do want this conference, you could always both fair
witness it, together....
rcurl
response 215 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 16 15:52 UTC 1995

Not to disagree with the creation of a classical music cf, but if you
just forgot all the non-classical items in music, wouldn't it be a
classical music cf for you?
sidhe
response 216 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 16 16:15 UTC 1995

        It probably wouldn't be the same. I'd like a classical music cf,
if it could also include modern orchestral <John Williams, Danny Elfman,
etc>
rcurl
response 217 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 16 17:14 UTC 1995

I'd think it would include whatever users considered classical
(classical chamber, classical 12-note, classical rock...??).
ajax
response 218 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 16 18:48 UTC 1995

Creating classical and alternative music conferences seems about the same as
creating an rpg games conference, being direct subsets of a more general
conference.
sidhe
response 219 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 16 19:15 UTC 1995

so, are you for, or against it, then?
ajax
response 220 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 16:36 UTC 1995

No opin, just an observation.  Creating subset conferences isn't a new thing.
 
Two reasons I see for creating subset confs are (1) if the subset topic is a
large chunk of the main conference, so it drowns out other discussion there,
or (2) if it's a tiny chunk of the main conference, so people interested in
just the subset have to wade through a lot of other discussion.  The music
subsets seem to fall under category 2.
 
A reason against subset confs: the main and subset confs may have less
activity combined than the main conference previously had.
krj
response 221 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 20 03:34 UTC 1995

(The surviving music cf fairwitnesses are rubbing their noggins together
and will say something shortly.  Arabella is interested in being a FW
of a classical music cf if one develops.)
lilmo
response 222 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 22 05:42 UTC 1995

Suggestion:  create a new music cf, link over items with acctive discussion
or of lasting interest, and see if the desire is still there for the new
music genre cf's.
sidhe
response 223 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 22 13:36 UTC 1995

        Original idea, but why?
ajax
response 224 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 22 16:34 UTC 1995

  The idea behind conference restarts, I think, is that with far fewer
items, new participants have an easier time navigating the many items.
If agora were never restarted, for example, there would be over a thousand
items!  A music restart wouldn't solve all the reasons for starting
splinter cf's, but it might help, until it gets big again.
sidhe
response 225 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 22 22:00 UTC 1995

        You mean like coop 6, here? Not bad.. but are enough of the items
"dead" to warrant this?
lilmo
response 226 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 22 22:11 UTC 1995

I don't know, but someone who frequents "music" (such as an FW) might.
sidhe
response 227 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 14:56 UTC 1995

Fair enough. Let's hear about it.
arabella
response 228 of 256: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 21:23 UTC 1995

Well, my noggin is fair sore from rubbing, but I'm not sure what to say just
yet.  I haven't been an active fairwitness of Music lately, mostly because
I've experienced a lot of frustration with the incredible slowness of
Grex ever since it became widely telnetted to.  The machine d9oes not
handle this volume well, and being able to type two lines of text before they 
show up on my screen is not a happy thing for me.

Nevertheless, I suppose something needs to be done about
Music.  I can see both the pro and con of having little individual music 
conferences.  I can see that if Music is to remain as one conference, it should
probably be restarted.  If there is to be a classical music conference,
I would dearly love to be a fairwitness thereof.

Hmm, I think I  need to go rub my noggin some more.  I promise a further
reply tomorrow.
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