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Grex > Agora46 > #121: California's Governor Gray Davis facing recall election | |
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tod
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response 204 of 264:
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Sep 7 15:09 UTC 2003 |
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mcnally
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response 205 of 264:
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Sep 7 18:08 UTC 2003 |
Yes. Apparently in California more voting = less democracy..
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klg
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response 206 of 264:
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Sep 7 21:17 UTC 2003 |
We owe thanks to Dr. Dean for providing the comic relief.
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happyboy
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response 207 of 264:
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Sep 7 21:19 UTC 2003 |
i dunno, ah-null is pretty funny.
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klg
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response 208 of 264:
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Sep 7 21:29 UTC 2003 |
Yes. You "dunno."
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happyboy
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response 209 of 264:
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Sep 8 08:05 UTC 2003 |
you're right...he is not funny at all.
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gull
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response 210 of 264:
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Sep 8 15:00 UTC 2003 |
He's funny in the sense that it says a lot about California that he's
considered a serious candidate at all. He's not really funny in the
"ha-ha" sense of the word.
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tod
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response 211 of 264:
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Sep 8 16:44 UTC 2003 |
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happyboy
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response 212 of 264:
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Sep 8 16:46 UTC 2003 |
OH HELL YES!
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albaugh
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response 213 of 264:
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Sep 8 17:20 UTC 2003 |
"A vast right-wing conspiracy."
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gull
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response 214 of 264:
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Sep 8 18:45 UTC 2003 |
Actually, it's only half-vast.
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slynne
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response 215 of 264:
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Sep 9 16:25 UTC 2003 |
I am surprised no one has made a film short called "Total Gubernatorial
Recall" starring Arnold Schwartzenegger.
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albaugh
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response 216 of 264:
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Sep 9 17:02 UTC 2003 |
Good one! :-)
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scg
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response 217 of 264:
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Sep 10 23:23 UTC 2003 |
Such a film couldn't be shown on TV at the moment due to equal time
provisions, but there have certainly been lots of "total recall" jokes here.
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scg
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response 218 of 264:
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Sep 11 02:15 UTC 2003 |
I got my sample ballot in the mail today.
Listed right above Cruz Bustamonte, the Democratic Leutenant Governor, is
"John Christopher Burton, Civil Rights Lawyer." A different John Burton is
a powerful and well known state senator. Other famous names on the ballot
include Edward Kennedy, a "businessman/educator;" Robert Dole, a "small
business owner;" and Michael Jackson, a "satellite project manager." An
engineer named S. Issa is also listed. Darrel Issa was the guy who organized
the recall but dropped out of the replacement race. Also on the similar but
not matching a famous name list are Dan Feinstein and Diana Foss, the only
two candidates who don't list occupations. Porn star Mary Carey is listed
as "Mary 'Mary Carey' Cook." Since all the candidates with names beginning
with C are grouped together, and aren't in alphabetical order, that may not
actually make it hard for her supporters (if she has any) to find her.
Much press attention a month ago, and a few of the lawsuits trying to delay
the recall, were centered around the consolodation of polling places to save
preparation time. Indeed, while my usual polling place is a local elementary
school, my polling place for the recall is listed as the garage of 1515
Francisco Street.
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jep
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response 219 of 264:
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Sep 11 13:21 UTC 2003 |
I've heard support for the recall is waning. Heh. Gray Davis will
cite it as a mandate of support for his policies if it fails. I don't
care; that would be better than the aftermath if the recall succeeds.
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gull
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response 220 of 264:
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Sep 11 14:00 UTC 2003 |
Gray Davis is a lousy governor. I'm just not sure any of the
alternatives are less lousy.
I heard on the radio yesterday that some Michigan legislators are
suggesting amending the recall rules to only allow recall elections as
part of a regularly scheduled election. This seems to be a move to
prevent frivilous recalls from costing the state money.
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gelinas
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response 221 of 264:
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Sep 11 15:06 UTC 2003 |
I hope that effort fails. Recall is a way of removing someone -before-
their term expires. Waiting for a regularly scheduled election may be
fine for someone serving a four or six year term, but it's useless for
someone on a two-year term.
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klg
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response 222 of 264:
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Sep 11 16:44 UTC 2003 |
re: "#220 (gull): . . .I heard on the radio yesterday that some
Michigan legislators are suggesting amending the recall rules to only
allow recall elections as part of a regularly scheduled election. This
seems to be a move to prevent frivilous recalls from costing the state
money."
If you are implying that the CA recall vote is not being conducted in
conjunction with a previously scheduled election, then we believe you
are incorrect.
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albaugh
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response 223 of 264:
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Sep 11 16:49 UTC 2003 |
I don't have any problem with a recall vote ("election") being held as soon
as feasible. The part I find insane is holding a simultaneous "successor
election". I hope that Michigan has no such arrangement.
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happyboy
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response 224 of 264:
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Sep 11 18:19 UTC 2003 |
i believe that the whole recall effort is a rich republican
GAME.
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gull
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response 225 of 264:
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Sep 11 19:32 UTC 2003 |
Re #223: I don't think that concept is bad, necessarily. Why wait? I
do think that California set the bar for getting on the ballot a bit
low. Ideally you'd want only serious candidates, not the ridiculous
number that are on there now.
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scg
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response 226 of 264:
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Sep 11 20:11 UTC 2003 |
re 222:
The California recall vote is indeed a special election created just
for the recall. There are a couple of other ballot proposals on the ballot,
but they would have waited until later were it not for the recall election.
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jep
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response 227 of 264:
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Sep 11 21:26 UTC 2003 |
I hope Michigan's replacement-after-recall procedure is more sensible,
too. I hope it takes more than -- what, 66? - signatures to get on the
ballot, for example.
I hope the replacement election takes place after the recall is
complete. Better yet, I hope that there's a succession procedure where
the lieutenant governor, House or Senate leader, 2nd leading vote
getter from the previous election, or *someone* provides for an
immediate replacement. I'm indifferent to whether there's a new
election after that replacement slides into the job.
I hope Michigan's recall procedure requires at least as much support as
does electing the governor in the first place. You ought to have to be
pretty awful to get recalled.
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albaugh
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response 228 of 264:
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Sep 15 17:38 UTC 2003 |
From: <BreakingNews@MAIL.CNN.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:20:05 -0400
Subject: CNN Breaking News
-- Federal appeals court delays California gubernatorial recall election.
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