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senna
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response 200 of 234:
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Sep 10 05:18 UTC 1998 |
You mean, staff doesn't automatically know or figure it out as soon as they
get on? :) I had assumed that was what was wrong, but it didn't occur to me
to mail anyone about it.
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remmers
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response 201 of 234:
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Sep 10 10:48 UTC 1998 |
There aren't always staff members logged on.
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mta
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response 202 of 234:
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Sep 10 14:35 UTC 1998 |
And to finish John's statement
"but there are several staffers who are rarely, if ever, not in close
contact with their e-mail."
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davel
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response 203 of 234:
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Sep 11 00:52 UTC 1998 |
Hmm. I'm dialed in, and it seems as though Grex is running reasonably fast,
but the *display* is slow. As though at 1200 or maybe even 300 bps -
displaying distinctly one character at a time, as though a fairly fast typist
were typing very steadily. (I'm connected at 2400 bps, my modem max, & this is
**much** slower.) When a line just wordwrapped (in gate), & when I backspace
over anything, I see the very distinct backspace-space-backspace sequence. Are
network packets going out to the term server with a single-character maximum
size or something?
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valerie
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response 204 of 234:
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Sep 11 15:15 UTC 1998 |
This response has been erased.
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valerie
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response 205 of 234:
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Sep 12 12:53 UTC 1998 |
This response has been erased.
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i
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response 206 of 234:
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Sep 12 14:35 UTC 1998 |
I just got in okay (14.4K) on -3000.
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scg
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response 207 of 234:
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Sep 12 17:05 UTC 1998 |
re 205:
I would guess that that's a modem thing, and not a terminal server
thing. The thing to do is probably to go to the Pumpkin and power cycle the
modems.
note: I don't use the dial-in modems, so I'm not very motivated to go do
that. Somebody who cares about the problem should go fix it.
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valerie
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response 208 of 234:
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Sep 12 19:24 UTC 1998 |
This response has been erased.
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arthurp
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response 209 of 234:
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Sep 12 21:12 UTC 1998 |
I'm glad I didn't go tickle the modems.
If a staffer is going to the pumkin this weekend to reboot or backup, I would
like to know so I can try to be there to see it done. I don't want to have
to try it going on just reading about it. My number is on here, and in the
phone book.
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aruba
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response 210 of 234:
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Sep 14 14:35 UTC 1998 |
Often when reading mail in Pine I get this banner at the top:
This message contains non-ASCII text, but the iso-8859-1 font
has apparently not yet been installed on this machine.
(There is no directory named /usr/local/src/metamail-2.7/fonts.)
What follows may be partially unreadable, but the English (ASCII) parts
should still be readable.
The message always displays correctly, presumably because the sender doesn't
use any wacky characters. Is there any chance we could get that font
installed?
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davel
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response 211 of 234:
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Sep 14 14:48 UTC 1998 |
Are we running X to be able to display fonts even if the font were there?
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aruba
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response 212 of 234:
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Sep 14 22:09 UTC 1998 |
Well, no. I was just hoping that by putting the right file in the right
directory we could make that message go away.
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davel
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response 213 of 234:
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Sep 15 01:08 UTC 1998 |
It might ... to be replaced by a "you are not running X" message. metamail
can only do so much.
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aruba
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response 214 of 234:
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Sep 15 02:09 UTC 1998 |
Could you explain what metamail is, Dave? And why Pine is running it?
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davel
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response 215 of 234:
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Sep 15 11:47 UTC 1998 |
Actually, I think pine may have some degree of mime support built in; I was
thinking of elm, which is what I use. In the case of elm, they decided to
build in (if you compile it in) calls to an external, but freely available,
program to handle mime formats which elm doesn't know are basically just text.
I suspect man metamail will tell you all you might wish to know, and more.
Again in the case of elm, I think there's a place in the config file
(.elm/elmrc) to specify fonts (or whatever they are - character sets) which
elm will treat as equivalent to US-ASCII & display without calling metamail.
I keep meaning to add a couple to it, but I never remember when the time
comes.
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tpryan
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response 216 of 234:
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Sep 15 16:05 UTC 1998 |
Could also get your freinds to set their fancy-stanzy mailer
to send you only text, instead of the rich-text-format wanting to
be sent from MS mailers.
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davel
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response 217 of 234:
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Sep 16 14:46 UTC 1998 |
Where I see this, or 99% of it, is on a mailing list. The listadm keeps
posting notices about this. I don't think anything I say will have too much
effect, in my case. <sigh>
Yep, everyone in the whole world uses Microsoft products to read their mail.
If they don't they should. So Microsoft feels it's fine to just make all
kinds of non-text formats the default.
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wh
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response 218 of 234:
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Sep 17 00:54 UTC 1998 |
Was just prompted with a login prompt while reading Agora. What gives?
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jazz
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response 219 of 234:
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Sep 18 13:31 UTC 1998 |
Re #210: Either that font's not installed on the machine you're
reading it on (text or no) or metamail doesn't have the proper symlinks.
Metamail will try to read the font in, even if it won't display it in a
text-based reader.
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dpc
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response 220 of 234:
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Sep 20 13:48 UTC 1998 |
I'm glad this situation with MIME formats came up. I use Unix mail
("!mail"). Every once in a while somebody sends me mail with a MIME
attachment. The attachment shows up as junk on my screen. Of course,
I don't know that the mail will have a mime attachment until I've
already read it! I assume the message, including the attachment,
ends up in my mbox.
Is there any way to re-read this mail with a mailer
on Grex that *does* support attachments? I lost an *important* piece
of mail once and don't want it to happen again.
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scg
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response 221 of 234:
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Sep 20 18:48 UTC 1998 |
pine -f ../mbox
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davel
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response 222 of 234:
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Sep 20 22:01 UTC 1998 |
or elm -f mbox (I'd guess from Steve's response that pine assumes your
"folder" is in some subdirectory, but elm doesn't).
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scg
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response 223 of 234:
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Sep 20 22:27 UTC 1998 |
I thought that elm didn't handle MIME, or something like that.
Yes, pine by default assumes that folders are in the mail subdirectory.
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davel
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response 224 of 234:
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Sep 21 11:17 UTC 1998 |
elm calls metamail when it encounters MIME-encoded messages.
For that matter, you could probably call metamail directly, if you wanted.
I've never done it & don't know the calling sequences off hand.
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