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senna
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response 200 of 364:
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Jul 29 04:30 UTC 1997 |
I'm getting a hefty amount of lag at staggered points, which is really
surprising since I'm dialed in from groupie right now.
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scg
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response 201 of 364:
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Jul 29 05:46 UTC 1997 |
Lag sounds like the effect of error correcting modems encountering line noise.
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albaugh
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response 202 of 364:
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Jul 29 14:43 UTC 1997 |
Sorry if this has been covered before, but it looks like for some users (e.g.
*me*) ~<user> doesn't work. E.g. "ls ~rcurl/*" gets me nowhere, whereas
"ls /a/r/c/rcurl/*" works. Is there some setting I need with/for "sh" to get
this corking. Should I change at long last to csh?
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mcnally
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response 203 of 364:
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Jul 29 17:05 UTC 1997 |
sh doesn't expand the "~user" syntax, that was a feature introduced by csh.
most shells written since then understand it so if you want sh syntax but
~user expansion you'll need to switch to some newer variant like ksh or
bash (and I'm not sure if grex supports either, though we should have bash.)
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davel
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response 204 of 364:
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Jul 29 19:31 UTC 1997 |
Grex supports bash, which supports that notation.
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albaugh
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response 205 of 364:
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Jul 30 17:48 UTC 1997 |
Anyone have any warnings about using csh on grex, or does it work the same
(as well as) csh elsewhere?
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remmers
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response 206 of 364:
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Jul 30 18:08 UTC 1997 |
Csh was my first login shell on Grex, and is still the login shell
for my root account. I've never noticed anything different about it
here than elsewhere. But for my personal account, I switched to tcsh
some time ago. It's an extension of csh with much more functionality.
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valerie
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response 207 of 364:
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Jul 30 21:57 UTC 1997 |
This response has been erased.
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mcnally
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response 208 of 364:
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Jul 30 23:21 UTC 1997 |
No problems I know of with csh on Grex (other than the historical
criticisms about shell-programming in csh (see the classic paper
"CSH Programming Considered Harmful")) but why would you use it in
preference to tcsh, which supports everything I've ever wanted to
do in csh and has a while lot of nifty extra features besides?
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remmers
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response 209 of 364:
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Jul 31 01:29 UTC 1997 |
(REAL Unixers use 'sh')
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rcurl
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response 210 of 364:
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Jul 31 05:47 UTC 1997 |
I use tcsh because I didn't know any better.
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mcnally
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response 211 of 364:
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Jul 31 08:00 UTC 1997 |
re #209: For interactive use or shell scripts? I use sh for
shell scripts but wouldn't dream of using it for interactive use
any more than I would edit anything in ed.
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valerie
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response 212 of 364:
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Jul 31 12:54 UTC 1997 |
This response has been erased.
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remmers
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response 213 of 364:
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Jul 31 13:28 UTC 1997 |
(RE #211: Oh, and I forgot to add: REAL Unixers edit with 'ed'.
Thanks for the reminder! ;)
Yes, I did mean use 'sh' interactively, but I was also kidding.
Seriously, 'sh' is my language of choice for shell scripts too.
By the way -- this *is* the "System Problems" item, so don't let
this techie digression deter you from reporting problems.)
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remmers
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response 214 of 364:
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Jul 31 13:32 UTC 1997 |
(To add to the digression: I wouldn't use 'ed' as an interactive
editor either, but have occasionally written 'ed scripts'.
The 'ed' editor command language can be used for scripting and
has some advantages over 'sed'.)
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gull
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response 215 of 364:
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Aug 1 20:39 UTC 1997 |
Iuse bash because I'm stubbon, basically. ;) I'm comfortable with it.
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kaplan
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response 216 of 364:
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Aug 1 21:22 UTC 1997 |
Re 208: csh is easier on grex's overworked CPU and RAM than tcsh.
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toking
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response 217 of 364:
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Aug 1 23:51 UTC 1997 |
is there any reason why backtalk would crash netscape when entering an item?
I've crashed my netscape session like 3 times now, twice in poetry and once
in agora.
or is it just netscape?
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dpc
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response 218 of 364:
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Aug 2 02:05 UTC 1997 |
What's the latest word on our hardware situation? How many Megs of RAM
are we running on?
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scg
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response 219 of 364:
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Aug 2 03:02 UTC 1997 |
64 MB.
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srw
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response 220 of 364:
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Aug 2 05:15 UTC 1997 |
What version and platform of netscape? I crash 3.01 on Win NT pretty often.
Backtalk doesn't seem to be a factor. It's still better then MSIE.
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e4808mc
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response 221 of 364:
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Aug 2 06:27 UTC 1997 |
So I tried to send mail ;to staff and was told:
If your terminal type is set to "dumb", only "mail" works.
(Your terminal type is set to "dialup").
Mail program to use? pine
Your terminal, of type "dialup", is lacking functions needed to run pine.
So I went to bbs and Grex said
WARNING: terminal cannot clear to end of line
WARNING: terminal cannot clear screen
WARNING: terminal cannot home cursor
WARNING: terminal cannot move cursor to lower left of screen
WARNING: terminal cannot scroll backwards
- (press RETURN)
and when I tried to edit this response, I got
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Incomplete termcap entry
HELP!
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e4808mc
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response 222 of 364:
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Aug 2 06:31 UTC 1997 |
And then it truncated my response 221. The first few lines should read:
I tried to change my terminal type from vt100 to vt102.
When I next logged in I got:
Last login: Sat Aug 2 02:07:17 on ttyh1
No mail.
Abort
It then took me to menu and I tried to send mail.........
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e4808mc
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response 223 of 364:
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Aug 2 06:33 UTC 1997 |
I just tried to use pico to edit my .login file, and was told:
%/:pico .login
Incomplete termcap entry
Could staff please fix this somehow?
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toking
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response 224 of 364:
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Aug 2 07:08 UTC 1997 |
it 3.01 for SunOS 4.something <running on 5.5> but if its a netscape
thing then i suppose i can deal with it <g>
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